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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4844 on: July 13, 2020, 06:00:49 PM »
I don’t care if someone thinks America is the greatest country in the world or not.  I admit I don’t understand when people seem embarrassed to be American and the tone of OAM’s posts smacks of that.

Now, I’m sure he’ll deny that and remind everyone he never actually said that but that was the distinct impression I got.
Well I'm going to make distinctions when I feel they need to be made.  Specifically, I've never even suggested that I'm embarrassed to be American.  I have, however, found a multitude of words and actions our leaders, groups, and other individuals in America that I deem embarrassing.

I see those as being 2 very different things.  If I'm in Rome, I'm not going to lie and say I'm Canadian.  I'm going to tell the truth and hopefully show that not all Americans worship Jesus, fireworks, and lottery tickets.  Now, most Americans don't, as we know, but that may be the caricature of us.

Shall I apologize for not being broad and messy?  Embarrassed perhaps?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4845 on: July 13, 2020, 06:04:49 PM »
As Sunday drew to a close in Chicago, a 15-year-old girl was shot while standing on a West Side street, just half an hour after two teenaged boys were wounded while sitting in a car at a South Side gas station.

The attacks capped another violent weekend in the city, with at least 10 people killed and 50 others wounded. The youngest victim was a 15-year-old boy shot dead on the Far South Side, blocks from where his older brother was fatally shot in April.

The level of violence was similar to the same weekends in 2016 and 2017, the worst years for shootings in Chicago since the 1990s.


This was the first weekend since a new specialized citywide unit was announced to stop flare-ups in violence. It was also the fourth weekend in a row that a child under 16 was fatally shot in Chicago.

Over the July 4 weekend, a 7-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy were killed. The weekend before, a 20-month-old boy and a 10-year-old girl were killed. A week earlier, five children were fatally shot, including a 3-year-old boy riding in a car with his father.

On Sunday night, two boys 14 and 17 were in a car with a 20-year-old man when a silver SUV approached and someone opened fire around 11:30 p.m. in the 7000 block of South Damen Avenue in the West Englewood neighborhood, police said.

The man was shot several times and taken to Holy Cross Hospital, where he was pronounced dead, police said.



The older teenager was shot in the right arm and the younger one was shot in the back, police said.

They were both taken to Comer Children’s Hospital in good condition.


No arrests have been made.

Just before midnight, a 15-year-old girl was shot on the West Side, police said. She and a 29-year-old man were standing on a sidewalk in the 4200 block of West Monroe Street in the West Garfield Park neighborhood when they heard gunshots, police said.


The man was shot in the calf and the girl was shot in the left knee, calf and shoulder, police said. They were both taken to Stroger Hospital in good condition.


No arrests have been made.
We know why you keep posting these, but I see it the other way around.
Should the police have been cracking down on peaceful protests or showing a unified, overwhelming force on Chicago's toughest neighborhoods?  

No, it's not a genuine either/or sentiment, but with all the ugliness we saw outside of the rioting, wouldn't that show of over-aggressive force have been more useful directed towards the real, troublesome criminals?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4846 on: July 13, 2020, 06:08:40 PM »
We know why you keep posting these, but I see it the other way around.
Should the police have been cracking down on peaceful protests or showing a unified, overwhelming force on Chicago's toughest neighborhoods? 

No, it's not a genuine either/or sentiment, but with all the ugliness we saw outside of the rioting, wouldn't that show of over-aggressive force have been more useful directed towards the real, troublesome criminals?


They didn't crack down, and they were mostly not peaceful. Ask Alderman Lopez for this thoughts on the matter.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4847 on: July 13, 2020, 06:10:37 PM »
If schools don't reopen, can we get a refund on the portion of our property taxes that goes to schools, and can we get the teachers to go on unemployment like others have had to?

Defund the teachers, so to speak? Blow up their unions, get rid of the stooge union bosses, and only hire the good ones back as non-union employees, subject to merit, like most of the rest of the working people?


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4848 on: July 13, 2020, 06:11:06 PM »
They didn't crack down, and they were mostly not peaceful. Ask Alderman Lopez for this thoughts on the matter.
The peaceful protests weren't peaceful?  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4849 on: July 13, 2020, 06:11:34 PM »
If schools don't reopen, can we get a refund on the portion of our property taxes that goes to schools, and can we get the teachers to go on unemployment like others have had to?

Yes, it'd be like giving many of us a raise anyway.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4850 on: July 13, 2020, 06:12:27 PM »
I saw two protest marches here.  The police were escorting the marchers, who were a bit noisy but peaceful, the ones I saw.  I don't think the local police "cracked down" on peaceful marchers.

One could argue there were some incidents, like the four APDs who tazed and pulled a couple from their car.  I never understood why they did that and suspect perhaps there was something else not reported.  All those officers were black, and fired.

Maybe some police cracked down on peaceful protesters somewhere, I did see quite a bit of restraint on film where protesters were being rather aggressive and unpleasant.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4851 on: July 13, 2020, 06:16:14 PM »
The peaceful protests weren't peaceful? 
In some areas, yes they were peaceful, and there were no problems with them. In other areas, peaceful protests grew into much more, and even those were allowed to continue - except in the downtown area, where the bridges were raised. The rest of the city burned.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4852 on: July 13, 2020, 06:20:15 PM »
Yes, it'd be like giving many of us a raise anyway.
The average salary for Chicago teachers is roughly $71,150 per year. Mayor Lori Lightfoot has proposed a 16 percent pay increase over five years that would bring up teachers’ average salary to about $100,000 at the end.

Here is how the teachers’ salary would stack up by comparison when adjusted for cost of living in other large cities. In New York City, the average pay is $61,621, in Philadelphia it is $57,902, in Houston it is $40,480. At this point in negotiations for Chicago teachers, salary does not appear to be a big issue.

And then there is the pension problem...

BTW... $71,150 per 3/4 year => $94,866 per year.

I guess you need to move to Chiraq.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4853 on: July 13, 2020, 06:21:24 PM »
In some areas, yes they were peaceful, and there were no problems with them. In other areas, peaceful protests grew into much more, and even those were allowed to continue - except in the downtown area, where the bridges were raised. The rest of the city burned.
Yeah, that's probably why I specified the peaceful ones.  If you're just going to go on a tangent every time I say something, I'm not sure why either of us keeps typing.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4854 on: July 13, 2020, 06:23:26 PM »
The average salary for Chicago teachers is roughly $71,150 per year. Mayor Lori Lightfoot has proposed a 16 percent pay increase over five years that would bring up teachers’ average salary to about $100,000 at the end.
Hey, Mr. Broken Record, READ WHAT I TYPE.

"Most of us" = most teachers in the United States of WTF.  You immediately post about Chicago teachers' salaries.  Now tell us all, are "most teachers in the U.S." the same as Chicago teachers?  

Can you have an honest conversation about anything?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4855 on: July 13, 2020, 06:24:11 PM »
You should get a job at F__ N___.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4856 on: July 13, 2020, 06:32:06 PM »
Should the police have been cracking down on peaceful protests or showing a unified, overwhelming force on Chicago's toughest neighborhoods? 
You posed this as an either/or question. The police DID NOT crack down on peaceful protests. They didn't crack down on the unpeaceful ones either.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4857 on: July 13, 2020, 06:35:03 PM »
Hey, Mr. Broken Record, READ WHAT I TYPE.

"Most of us" = most teachers in the United States of WTF.  You immediately post about Chicago teachers' salaries.  Now tell us all, are "most teachers in the U.S." the same as Chicago teachers? 

Can you have an honest conversation about anything?

Here is Phoenix.

https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/public-school-teacher-salary/phoenix-az


Can you? For most of "you", unemployment would absolutely not be a raise. 
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