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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4354 on: July 02, 2020, 10:56:48 AM »
They’re doing this by just leaving California?


No. They are doing that by bringing with them the same ideology that led to the high taxes, ect, that drove them out of Cali in the first place. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4355 on: July 02, 2020, 11:40:25 AM »

No. They are doing that by bringing with them the same ideology that led to the high taxes, ect, that drove them out of Cali in the first place.
Heh, that is one angle.

I’d be interested to see the makeup of folks leaving California. Does it match the state’s 60-35 percent left-right profile? Is it retirees? Artists? Young families?

The larger thing is even if the taxes were low, there’s probably still a decent number of departures. Perhaps it’s more intra-State than inter-State. The issue is that populated parts of the state remain absurdly desirable, for whatever reason. Economics tells us this.

I hope lots of folks in the state suddenly decide the taxes are too much, but for some reason, they just don’t. 

(I also don’t have much sympathy for Nevada or Arizona. Your states have long been built on transplants. Them’s the breaks. I’d have to look closer at Idaho)

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4356 on: July 02, 2020, 11:43:51 AM »

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4357 on: July 02, 2020, 11:45:35 AM »
what "expert" came up with that graph?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4358 on: July 02, 2020, 11:48:47 AM »
https://capsweb.org/news/californias-population-getting-grayer-new-projections-show/

Their population rate of growth is slowing, but it is still positive.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4359 on: July 02, 2020, 11:52:18 AM »
I'd mentioned net domestic migration has been negative.

Meaning that Americans tend to be leaving California at a higher rate than Americans are entering. Net overall migration can still be positive if foreign immigrants are coming into California at high enough numbers to overcome the domestic deficit. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4360 on: July 02, 2020, 11:55:54 AM »
The top state tax bracket is 13.3% on income.  It hits 8% at only $40,000 of income, which isn't enough to live in much of CA.  Housing of course is expensive near any of the major cities, and not really cheap elsewhere.  The middle class are getting squeezed.  The uber wealthy don't care.  If a lot of middle class folks move out, one might expect to see a drop in housing prices for 3 bedroom type homes in the 'burbs, but they seem to go higher still.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4361 on: July 02, 2020, 11:57:53 AM »
I'd mentioned net domestic migration has been negative.

Meaning that Americans tend to be leaving California at a higher rate than Americans are entering. Net overall migration can still be positive if foreign immigrants are coming into California at high enough numbers to overcome the domestic deficit.
Also people having kids. 

The part of the state where I’m from grows more and more crowded every year despite a number of drawbacks. I’m not a fan of the trend. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4362 on: July 02, 2020, 12:05:38 PM »



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4363 on: July 02, 2020, 12:06:31 PM »
The top state tax bracket is 13.3% on income.  It hits 8% at only $40,000 of income, which isn't enough to live in much of CA.  Housing of course is expensive near any of the major cities, and not really cheap elsewhere.  The middle class are getting squeezed.  The uber wealthy don't care.  If a lot of middle class folks move out, one might expect to see a drop in housing prices for 3 bedroom type homes in the 'burbs, but they seem to go higher still.
some of the uber wealthy care

Phil Mikelson is moving to Florida - very clear that it's to escape taxes
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4364 on: July 02, 2020, 12:07:15 PM »



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4365 on: July 02, 2020, 12:08:21 PM »
some of the uber wealthy care

Phil Mikelson is moving to Florida - very clear that it's to escape taxes
High earned income people care, yes.  Wealthy people without much earned income care a lot less.

Generally, a person worth say $100 million will not have significant earned income.  I should know.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4366 on: July 02, 2020, 12:13:18 PM »


Tis is just for one year.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4367 on: July 02, 2020, 12:14:55 PM »
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