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Cincydawg

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #504 on: February 25, 2020, 07:01:42 PM »
The torrent of water has stopped.  I'm hearing someone with a serious power saw cutting metal who just stopped as guys were yelling at him to stop.  He's back at it now.  There are EIGHT large trucks out there, two popo cars, flashing lights, a Bobcat, and about 40 men standing around looking officious, and one dude in the trench with said power saw.  Oh, and Klieg lights now of course.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #505 on: February 25, 2020, 07:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 25, 2020, 06:37:16 PM
  I was paying nearly $200 a month for internet and cable.

That's your own fault.  Cable providers are jacking up rates as they lose customers and prey on people who don't know any better.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #506 on: February 25, 2020, 07:57:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 25, 2020, 07:38:37 PM
That's your own fault.  Cable providers are jacking up rates as they lose customers and prey on people who don't know any better.
I know better. I got rid of cable because I refuse to stomach that cost.

But my internet is >$100/mo because I live in a place were I have a choice of that for reasonable speeds, or DSL at 3 Mbps. And I literally mean that; it's not a typo. 3 Mbps. You can't reliably stream in standard def at 3 Mbps. 

So my entertainment cost is $102/mo for internet, $45/mo for Hulu Live TV, and $16/mo for Netflix. That's not much worse than what @Cincydawg was paying, and without getting my TV from the cable company.

In a rational locale with internet competition, I'd bet I'd cut that internet cost in half. But there is no competition here.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #507 on: February 25, 2020, 07:58:11 PM »
It was my CHOICE.  I accepted the trade in a free market.  I felt it was worth it.  The alternatives for me were not as appealing.

Now, it's all in my HOA bill.  I'm still paying for it, it's just hidden, sort of, and I don't have a choice now of course, but it works for me.  Some of my neighbors don't like it at all because they don't use cable.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #508 on: February 25, 2020, 08:04:57 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 25, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
It was my CHOICE.  I accepted the trade in a free market.  I felt it was worth it.  The alternatives for me were not as appealing.
Well, I understand that's a choice... But I disagree that it's anything approaching a free market.

Your choice was between a government-granted monopoly to your cable provider, or cobbling together a hodgepodge of services on the open market, or going satellite for TV at similar cost, while being bent over the barrel from said cable provider for your internet. 

I understand that sometimes dealing with a single provider is easier than a hodgepodge. But nothing regarding the cable/internet market is even remotely a free market.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #509 on: February 25, 2020, 10:31:29 PM »
part of the reason great internet service is not competitive is the cost to bring fiber optic cable to your house

part of the cost is insurance and damage to other underground utilities such as the water main or the gas line
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #510 on: February 25, 2020, 10:42:09 PM »
Truth.  Metronet has been invading my hood and while they offer competition here to uverse and spectrum,  they seem to be on a tear, through mains of all kind throughout the hood.  Some mixed reviews about them.   They obliterated the water and sprinkler lines at my old house.  That happened not two weeks after we sold and moved out.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #511 on: February 26, 2020, 08:20:24 AM »
When I moved in with the wife, they had satellite, DirecTV I think.  AT&T also offered coverage, as did two or three other groups.  I liked Roadrunner, and I changed the house over to it.  It was a lot faster and more reliable and the additional cost was minimal, if any.  It seems like a competitive market to me.

I don't have choice now of course, it's DirecTV and it seems to be decent.  

The street outside is "Fixed".  They put two metal plates over the hole with some asphalt to ease the transition.  I'm sort of impressed they finished it last night.

I see separately trucks putting in "cable" all over which is presume is fiber optic.  It's usually an orange "cable" that comes on hoops.  We are supposed to get a 3.3x speed upgrade here shortly, we're told.  I don't know if that is related.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #512 on: February 26, 2020, 10:32:39 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 26, 2020, 08:20:24 AM
When I moved in with the wife, they had satellite, DirecTV I think.  AT&T also offered coverage, as did two or three other groups.  I liked Roadrunner, and I changed the house over to it.  It was a lot faster and more reliable and the additional cost was minimal, if any.  It seems like a competitive market to me.
Ahh, I stand corrected. Consider yourself lucky, as there are a great many of us who have only one option or who have one good option and one completely non-viable option.

Nobody here wants to build out a wired alternative to the cable company in a 50 year old neighborhood when wireless 5G home internet is around the corner, so until that build-out arrives, I'm stuck with the cable company's internet.

Which works fine and is fast, to be fair, but it is much more expensive than it would be if there was competition.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #513 on: February 26, 2020, 10:38:10 AM »
Of course, we all would prefer to be able to choose better TV packages.  I get a thousand channels or so now and watch maybe 15 or so, ever. 

It would be "nice" to pay for those 15.  I realize this isn't how it works.

When I was a kid in Augusta, GA, we got two channels.  We moved to ATL in 1964 and got THREE!!!!  Then UHF started up and we kinda got four, the UHF channel was 17 and very poor reception, and that became TBS.  Somewhere in there PBS started.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #514 on: February 26, 2020, 11:34:40 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #515 on: February 26, 2020, 12:41:43 PM »
the Orange stuff could very well be fiber optic cable, but could also be duct that the fiber is pushed or pulled through later

duct is a great investment, cost the same to be placed, but can be more easily spliced and then new or additional fiber cable pulled
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #516 on: February 26, 2020, 01:04:31 PM »
I read somewhere we're getting fiber optic in the area.  Ah, it's "google fiber" and the orange is indeed conduit.

https://www.wabe.org/google-fiber-construction-begins-midtown-atlanta/

Six months after announcing that Google Fiber was coming to Atlanta, construction has begun in Midtown. 

Crews are laying down cables underground and building 23 fiber huts to store equipment in the metro area. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #517 on: February 26, 2020, 05:08:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on February 26, 2020, 10:38:10 AM
Of course, we all would prefer to be able to choose better TV packages.  I get a thousand channels or so now and watch maybe 15 or so, ever. 

It would be "nice" to pay for those 15.  I realize this isn't how it works.

with the right 15 channels it might cost quite a bit more than the price for a thousand
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