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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #476 on: February 25, 2020, 10:34:58 AM »
I'll drink nearly anything of high quality that has alcohol content

and some things that are not high quality according to utee
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #477 on: February 25, 2020, 11:38:09 AM »
Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan Wolverines will not be traveling abroad in what has become an annual spring trip because of fears over the coronavirus, the school said Monday.

"The football team will not be taking an international trip this spring due to health concerns around the world, most notably coronavirus," team spokesman Dave Ablauf told MLive.com in a text message. "[We're] looking at doing some community service in the Ann Arbor area."
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #478 on: February 25, 2020, 11:41:24 AM »
There is some kind of Chinese liquor that is highly prized and very expensive and it TASTES LIKE .... bad stuff.  REALLY bad stuff.  I forget the name.

Wow, I just googled bad tasting Chinese liquor and Moutai came right up.  This tastes SO bad it's worth going out of your way to try it.  I have never tasted any alcoholic beverage ever close.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #479 on: February 25, 2020, 11:42:41 AM »
According to Chinese media, baijiu is the best-selling liquor in the world, and Maotai is the most famous brand of baiju--and one of the few available in the United States. Maotai is pricey: Only finer Chinese restaurants in the States carry it, and the first time I tried it the bottle--stout, ceramic, and red, like a can of Chinese Barbasol--set us back $115 (fortunately, we split it 10 ways). It is normally served at room temperature, but like soju or sake it can be warmed on a burner.

Actually, Maotai's taste is easy to describe; what's hard is to explain why people would drink it. As Tim Clissold noted in his memoir, Mr. China,
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I've never met anybody, even at the heights of alcoholic derangement, prepared to admit that they actually liked the taste ... After drinking it, most people screw up their faces in an involuntary expression of pain and some even yell out.
To be fair, baijiu is undeniably popular, a staple of the Chinese banquet scene (though, according to the New York Times, the Beijing liquid lunch is fading fast). Maotai has been in production for over 200 years and is a regular winner at international liquor competitions, roping in 14 since the Chinese Revolution. And yet, and yet ... distilled peas. Zimmern, you have your challenge.


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2009/04/is-this-the-best-selling-liquor-in-the-world/13060/




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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #480 on: February 25, 2020, 11:53:16 AM »
Wow, I just googled bad tasting Chinese liquor and Moutai came right up.  This tastes SO bad it's worth going out of your way to try it.  I have never tasted any alcoholic beverage ever close.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #481 on: February 25, 2020, 12:04:41 PM »
What gets me is that most distilled liquors, until you acquire the taste for them, taste "horrible."

They BURN going down. It doesn't matter how good of a liquor it is, Johnnie Walker Blue or the best tequila or six-times distilled vodka. That much alcohol in any solution creates a burning sensation. 

If you give something like that to someone who has never had liquor, they're going to screw up their face and wonder why you're trying to poison them.

It's only after you've acquired the taste, and learned to distinguish the subtle flavors that accompany the sensation, and start to appreciate those flavors, that you can even stomach such drinks. 

People don't start by drinking whiskey. They drink a whiskey & coke, or a whiskey sour, or a 7&7, and slowly acclimate their palate to start appreciating what the whiskey starts bringing to the table. Then they might drink it straight on the rocks (the cold blunts the flavor and sensation), and only if they decide they really like it do they start drinking it neat. 

Many people never do. They try to find the smoothest vodka they can, drop it into a cocktail full of fruit and sugar to mask the flavor/sensation, and never would consider drinking straight liquors because they simply don't like it. 

I'll bet that appreciating baiju is much like appreciating fine whiskey here; seen as a sign of sophistication. So people put in the time and effort to develop the taste for it, and for some of them (like here with whiskey) they actually grow to enjoy and appreciate it. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #482 on: February 25, 2020, 12:16:31 PM »
Baiju tastes HORRIBLE, indescribably bad, not anything close to my first taste of spirits or Scotch.  We should all get together and try it some time.  I guarantee you you'd be amazed at how awful it is and not want another drink.  You could mix it 1:9 with Coke and it would taste horrible.

It tastes like stale fermented skunk piss that was left out to rot for a year.

No, it's worse than that.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #483 on: February 25, 2020, 12:22:06 PM »
https://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails-spirits/youve-never-tasted-anything-baijiu

What It’s Like: Baijiu is hard to pin down. Its flavor is different from any other spirit, so the usual descriptors like smoky, citrusy, fruity, etc., don’t really apply. And Moutai is one of the most distinct baijius—it’s classified as a “sauce” fragrance, the boldest of the classifications, which also include thick fragrance, light fragrance and honey fragrance. This is going to sound unappetizing, but there is definitely something rotten about it—and that’s good. There’s a funk—like sweet, rotting fruit or really good Parmesan. You might taste a touch of nutty sherry on the periphery or homemade blackberry eau-de-vie, but that’s just your American brain grasping at memory straws in an effort to articulate what you’re tasting. There is one thing I can say for sure: It is distinctly savory. Not salty, but savory and funky and fermented. As for the high alcohol level, there’s no burn on the palate but you’ll feel a subtle warmth in your chest.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #484 on: February 25, 2020, 12:36:08 PM »
Baiju tastes HORRIBLE, indescribably bad, not anything close to my first taste of spirits or Scotch.  We should all get together and try it some time.  I guarantee you you'd be amazed at how awful it is and not want another drink.  You could mix it 1:9 with Coke and it would taste horrible.

It tastes like stale fermented skunk piss that was left out to rot for a year.

No, it's worse than that.
Granted, I've never had baiju. So I don't have a basis for comparison with my own taste buds.

But you're talking about a culture where heavily-fermented foods are used and enjoyed MUCH more frequently than in any western cuisine. Think kimchi. Think stinky tofu. Think fish sauce. We're talking about a cuisine where durian is prized, but stinks so badly that it's banned from public transport? There are a lot of flavors in Chinese and Asian cuisine that are completely foreign to westerners. 

Is it that odd that the various flavor descriptors sound similar to some of the other fermented foods common to the area? "Funk", "barnyard", etc? 

I think it might be more of a case that "it tastes absolutely HORRIBLE to western palates", not that it's objectively horrible. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #485 on: February 25, 2020, 12:40:08 PM »
I like roquefort and other strong cheeses a lot. I like kimchi. I like Lagovulin.  I like Woodford, cognac, marc, Calvados, Irish whiskey, grappa ... I've even eaten seiche.  I worked for years in a lab with organosulfur compounds that would make skunk odor seem nice.

I get your point about the flavors of Chinese foods, and I'm sure (??) for many Chinese this is good stuff.  I'm merely stating emphatically that FOR ME it is beyond the most horrible thing I have ever tasted.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #486 on: February 25, 2020, 12:45:02 PM »
Mmmmmm roquefort.  Perhaps my second favorite cheese in all the world.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #487 on: February 25, 2020, 12:49:27 PM »
grappa and roquefort

perfect pairing!
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #488 on: February 25, 2020, 12:53:07 PM »
I'm merely stating emphatically that FOR ME it is beyond the most horrible thing I have ever tasted.
Fair 'nuff.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #489 on: February 25, 2020, 12:57:05 PM »
grappa and roquefort

perfect pairing!

Sure why not?!?!

Sauternes is the king for that pairing, but I really love to drink rose' or dry Bordeaux Blanc with it.

 

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