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He pulled out of extremely liberal New York Times ass.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/11/us/politics/vote-by-mail-us-states.html


To be fair, it seems they included absentee ballots in that total, which I have heard not a single person object to.

If that's what 320 was referring to, he mislabeled it. That says they expect to have 80 million come in. That's notably different from a subset of states sending 80 million ballots out.

Upon further review, it is not ballots, but ballot applications. Also upon further review, the setup doesn't allow voting by mail for the sake of voting by mail, so one can only do it if they are old, disabled, out of town or in jail. So probably not a great use of resources and should be targeted to the old/disabled.

Anyway, seems more sound than fury and in parts silly on both sides.

(I think back to at one point after a September move that a poll worker said if I registered at the voting place, it was unclear if I'd be listed by the time the election rolled around, but absentee would get me a ballot in time. It ended up ironic because I absolutely wasn't in town on election day for work reasons, though I didn't realize at the time)

its not applications that would be absentee voting

this is the actual ballots sent out blank to all registered voters

There's a lot to unpack there, some of it beyond my knowledge. However, I will look at this:

First, the GAO has definitively affirmed that the President and the OMB (an executive agency branch) withheld aid illegally, and that to be legal the President would have had to officially follow certain procedures and disclosures as to the reason for withholding the aid--which obviously never happened.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/710/703909.pdf

Second, you can look at the "transcript" of the call between Trump and the Ukranian President. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf) In it, there was the classic and well-known point where the Ukranian President asks about purchases of Javelin missiles and POTUS replies with "I'd like you to do us a favor, though". The immediate ask was to have them investigate Ukranian interference in the election, which was a sort of fever dream considering it was Russia, not Ukraine, that did so.

But the very next statements were the Ukrainian President talking about how he viewed the US as a "strategic partnership" and then assured POTUS that all the investigations would be done "open and candididly". The very next statement by POTUS was directly about the prosecutor and Biden's son. And said "Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into that..."

The call between POTUS and Ukraine was July 25, 2019. The decision by the OMB to withhold the duly approved aid was July 25, 2019.

Isn't that... convenient?

why are you retrying this 
waste of everyones time
but I guess its all you guys have
so on 2nd thought feel free

its not applications that would be absentee voting

this is the actual ballots sent out blank to all registered voters

Then this is wrong?
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/02/Harris-County-absentee-ballott/

Also, here's the suit itself: file:///Users/benbreiner/Downloads/DID11365_1_083120.pdf

Under Issue Presented: Whether Respondent is violating Texas Election Code §84.012 by sending applications for mail-in ballots to over 2.37 million registered voters in Harris County regardless of whether the individual has requested the application or has a “disability” under Texas Election Code

So this Harris County thing isn't about blank ballots. 

Then this is wrong?
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/02/Harris-County-absentee-ballott/

Also, here's the suit itself: file:///Users/benbreiner/Downloads/DID11365_1_083120.pdf

Under Issue Presented: Whether Respondent is violating Texas Election Code §84.012 by sending applications for mail-in ballots to over 2.37 million registered voters in Harris County regardless of whether the individual has requested the application or has a “disability” under Texas Election Code

So this Harris County thing isn't about blank ballots.

I think youre right on this upon rereading google

Here's the application is you want to print out a bunch. https://www.harrisvotes.com/Docs/VotingInfo/Ballot%20By%20Mail%20Application%20-%20English.pdf

(This issue is kinda silly on all fronts, but not the ones where people want to make it seem nefarious)

I have no objection to the absentee method but I do just mailing out the ballot unrequested which I think is going to be done in 7 states

There's a lot to unpack there, some of it beyond my knowledge. However, I will look at this:

First, the GAO has definitively affirmed that the President and the OMB (an executive agency branch) withheld aid illegally, and that to be legal the President would have had to officially follow certain procedures and disclosures as to the reason for withholding the aid--which obviously never happened.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/710/703909.pdf

Second, you can look at the "transcript" of the call between Trump and the Ukranian President. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf) In it, there was the classic and well-known point where the Ukranian President asks about purchases of Javelin missiles and POTUS replies with "I'd like you to do us a favor, though". The immediate ask was to have them investigate Ukranian interference in the election, which was a sort of fever dream considering it was Russia, not Ukraine, that did so.

But the very next statements were the Ukrainian President talking about how he viewed the US as a "strategic partnership" and then assured POTUS that all the investigations would be done "open and candididly". The very next statement by POTUS was directly about the prosecutor and Biden's son. And said "Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into that..."

The call between POTUS and Ukraine was July 25, 2019. The decision by the OMB to withhold the duly approved aid was July 25, 2019.

Isn't that... convenient?

So let’s agree on something for the sake of argument because I do not mean to defend POTUS in this.  Although asking for a personal favor and using the actual words he used I think it’s a stretch to say it’s anything more than him being an asshole. 

but for the sake of conversation lets say I’m wrong about that and that is illegal and he should have been impeached. Is it because, as everyone who was in favor of impeachment claimed, that he used his position of authority to go after a potential political opponent?

if yes, how much did he spend? How much did he hide?

now that has been established factually that the FISA documents were falsely and unconstitutionally and illegally used as the start to the entire Russian collusion investigation, as well as numerous high-level Democrats knowing about it, and several other illegal activities including using false information that they knew was false, is this not the same thing only on a much bigger scale? This one cost $32 million in two years of divisiveness.
That’s what I don’t get. The same people who want to throw Trump in the fire over doing that will sit here and defend the incredibly illegal and immoral activities going on in the intelligence community and the FBI that were used to start the Russia investigation.