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Cincydawg

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8148 on: September 02, 2020, 05:37:01 PM »
I was a slacktivist.  Never saw that movie.

I do recall a lot of save the whales back in the day, sign this or that petition etc.  Must have worked.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8149 on: September 02, 2020, 05:37:39 PM »
Following up: I've seen the Kenosha Police's media release on this.

44 cities doesn't tell me much. Someone from Pleasant Prarie is from a different city, but that doesn't indicates busloads of trouble makers coming in. Nor does 102 arrests with home addresses outside of Kenosha. If it were 102 from outside of Chicago in a Chicago protest, that would surprise me more.

The 69 curfew violations are a big "meh."

The 34 "curfew plus additional charges" is an interesting mixed bag: curfew plus possession of a controlled substance (specifically in that number) probably isn't a big deal; curfew plus burglary is.

That's 103 arrests. What are the other 72 arrests for, and where are those folks from, and what are their ties to alt-right or antifa groups?

Those are worthwhile questions, but not ones the media release addresses.

A few more answers here: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/08/31/jacob-blake-shooting-many-arrests-kenosha-outside-city/3451114001/

Most people from Wisconsin and northern Illinois. That seems normal. A handful from farther away. That seems intriguing. Also, it doesn't say which side those people from farther away were on.

Three on their way to attack police leaders? Prosecute the bejeezus out of those people.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8150 on: September 02, 2020, 05:39:24 PM »
Y'all got some links?

Really, you can trust me, but...


https://twitter.com/KenoshaPolice/status/1300260991696097280


That was through 12:30 PM on Sunday. Other outlets cited places they were from. Many from Washington, Oregon, DC, Illinois, Minnesota, among others. And yes, Chicago and Milwaukee and Madison contributed greatly here.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8151 on: September 02, 2020, 05:43:37 PM »
Sorry, didn't mean to imply I didn't trust you. Per the post I put just above, I was looking for more information about the arrests and at that moment I was about to jump on a work call, so didn't have time to go looking myself.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8152 on: September 02, 2020, 05:46:20 PM »

Sorry, didn't mean to imply I didn't trust you. Per the post I put just above, I was looking for more information about the arrests and at that moment I was about to jump on a work call, so didn't have time to go looking myself.
The information is out there. Yes, 175 arrests, but it could have been thousands here. No arrests were started until Thursday. There was not enough law enforcement before then. Police watched buildings burn.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8153 on: September 02, 2020, 05:48:15 PM »
I should also add that protesters/counter protesters with firearms scare the stuffing out of me. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a protest where people were arming up like that.

But I'm one of them liberal snowflakes that isn't a huge fan of lots of guns all over the place (I am a firearms owner, I've done some hunting, and I served in the Army, so I'm reasonably aware of how firearms work).

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8154 on: September 02, 2020, 05:59:53 PM »
I would vacate the premises if I saw "protesters" with fire arms ASAP.

It raises the possibility of something bad happening quite a bit.  And some folks don't understand their legal rights in each state.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8155 on: September 02, 2020, 06:12:19 PM »
I was a slacktivist.  Never saw that movie.

I do recall a lot of save the whales back in the day, sign this or that petition etc.  Must have worked.
I'd say...a worldwide ban on whaling. Tough to top that petition

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8156 on: September 02, 2020, 06:12:32 PM »
This portion of this discussion points to a larger point for me, why is the temperature of these things going up? I know that some people think the liberals are causing it. I've seen the cut-and-paste video DT Jr. put on twitter. I've also seen the things that President and his supporters say. I'm much more concerned about the militant right than the granola-eating, descendants of flower children.

HB is right that I'm more worried about Trump and Fox News than I am about Kathy Griffin and Madonna (see Ted Nugent; Griffin and Nugent are both genuine D-listers). For every Maxine Waters, there is a Mike Bevin, a Clay Higgins, etc.

And I should add that it is never ok to advocate killing political opponents, whether it's some media moron like Johnny Depp or Glen Beck, or a sitting U.S. Senator.

If you want to know why, here are some: https://www.adl.org/media/14107/download
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1283&context=nulr_online
https://www.un.org/sc/ctc/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/CTED_Trends_Alert_Extreme_Right-Wing_Terrorism.pdf
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2020/07/21/right-wing-terrorism-warning-signs
https://www.fesdc.org/fileadmin/user_upload/publications/RightwingPopulism.pdf
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jihadist-plots-used-be-u-s-europe-s-biggest-terrorist-n1234840
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8157 on: September 02, 2020, 06:15:49 PM »
1. We are in a pandemic and people are bored
2. Unemployment is high
3. The president is an idiot and is easy to protest
4. There's a cause that is righteous and has been in the news for years
5. It's pretty easy and cheap to get from one place to another

All in all you get some ripe conditions for malfeasance

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8158 on: September 02, 2020, 06:32:33 PM »
This portion of this discussion points to a larger point for me, why is the temperature of these things going up?
Well y'all know my take. 

We have people who live in two different realities, who don't even know each other any more, don't trust each other, and are being actively taught to hate and fear each other. 

One government can't govern two different realities. It can't work. One culture can't satisfy two realities. It can't work. 

So we're literally locked in battle with people who don't even live in our world, over who gets to control both worlds. 

Humanity is breaking, fellas. And I don't see any way out. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8159 on: September 02, 2020, 06:37:00 PM »
Well y'all know my take.

We have people who live in two different realities, who don't even know each other any more, don't trust each other, and are being actively taught to hate and fear each other.

One government can't govern two different realities. It can't work. One culture can't satisfy two realities. It can't work.

So we're literally locked in battle with people who don't even live in our world, over who gets to control both worlds.

Humanity is breaking, fellas. And I don't see any way out.
The people who do not want a capitalist republic have options elsewhere, right?

I agree about humanity breaking. It's just not good.



Anyway, as for some of the whereabouts of folks...


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/where-are-rioters-coming-from-data-shows
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8160 on: September 02, 2020, 06:41:53 PM »
You know the Republican party post Trump is an interesting concept. It was pretty much broken and reformed into his image. But who else fits that image?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #8161 on: September 02, 2020, 06:51:19 PM »
You know the Republican party post Trump is an interesting concept. It was pretty much broken and reformed into his image. But who else fits that image?
Ivanka.

 

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