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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7645 on: August 30, 2020, 08:15:11 AM »
Classic Obama, "in the days ahead" ... and then ... nothing, nada, not a peep. 
Well he'd only be president for six more months.  Obama made several executive actions on gun control, but with no support from the legislature there really isn't a lot for him to do, plus it was never a big goal of his anyway, though the Sandy Hook shooting clearly caused a change there.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7647 on: August 30, 2020, 08:18:52 AM »
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/once-again-obama-tries-to-deflect-blame-for-police-shootings/


I got my cop killings mixed up. 
This is what I could find from that speech - https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baton-rouge-police-ambush/obama-attacks-police-are-attack-all-us-n611246

"The death of these three brave officers underscores the danger that police across the country confront every single day," Obama said. "We as a nation have to be loud and clear that nothing justifies violence against law enforcement. Attacks on police are an attack on all of us and the rule of law that makes society possible."

These do not appear to me to be the words of someone trying to make every issue about race.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7648 on: August 30, 2020, 08:20:24 AM »
Well he'd only be president for six more months.  Obama made several executive actions on gun control, but with no support from the legislature there really isn't a lot for him to do, plus it was never a big goal of his anyway, though the Sandy Hook shooting clearly caused a change there.
As I said, words, and then nothing.  It was never a big goal I reckon.

Even in 2009-2010 when he basically had Congress on his side.  Not a big goal, says it all.  What were his big goals anyway?

They must have been really high priorities when one considers all the verbiage attached to gun control.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7649 on: August 30, 2020, 08:21:40 AM »
This reminds me of an old Daily Show joke that makes me most squeamish.
well what was it i was a periodic viewer
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7650 on: August 30, 2020, 08:24:31 AM »
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2016/07/obama-criticizes-police-fans-flames-during-dallas-police-memorial-service/
I guess my thought is I've heard people talk about trust a lot.  Part of that is understanding that racism exists, it hurts black people, and they aren't going to be happy about that fact.  Every time you say we shouldn't talk about it, you are saying that issue is unimportant.  Why should any black person trust any white person who claims it isn't an issue?

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« Reply #7651 on: August 30, 2020, 08:26:19 AM »
As I said, words, and then nothing.  It was never a big goal I reckon.

Even in 2009-2010 when he basically had Congress on his side.  Not a big goal, says it all.  What were his big goals anyway?

They must have been really high priorities when one considers all the verbiage attached to gun control.
Health care reform,, which he was the most successful president on since Lyndon Johnson, I suppose.  Also economy recovery, which turned out pretty well too.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7652 on: August 30, 2020, 08:27:16 AM »
Health care reform,, which he was the most successful president on since Lyndon Johnson, I suppose.  Also economy recovery, which turned out pretty well too.
Nothing else?  Those were mostly completed in 2010, at least the economy was recovering by then, whatever Obama had done to promote that is fine.  And then?


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7653 on: August 30, 2020, 08:28:48 AM »
Health care reform,, which he was the most successful president on since Lyndon Johnson, I suppose.  Also economy recovery, which turned out pretty well too.
Yes.   Health care reform, passed unconstitutionally.  “ you will keep your doctor”
all I can do is laugh at the huge mess he created. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7654 on: August 30, 2020, 08:30:22 AM »
I guess my thought is I've heard people talk about trust a lot.  Part of that is understanding that racism exists, it hurts black people, and they aren't going to be happy about that fact.  Every time you say we shouldn't talk about it, you are saying that issue is unimportant.  Why should any black person trust any white person who claims it isn't an issue?
Agreed.  But it is a two way street. 
so many Americans see ant- white rhetoric and violence thrown in their face.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7655 on: August 30, 2020, 08:30:31 AM »
I'd like to see some analysis of the thousand odd police killings of civilians in the US each year.  How many were white on black?  How many of those were very clearly legal, I mean, no doubt, the victim was shooting at cops, not just failing to comply, but actively shooting.  Then how many were black on black, or black on white.

Is it POSSIBLE that white cops killing black civilians under questionable circumstances is actually rare?  We'd all like that to be zero, magically, but cops make mistakes at times, which are not always racially motivated.  White cops kill white men as well, etc.

I could not find figures on this.

IF we see say 5 or 10 shootings a year which are questionable, would that not be an understandable result?  We'd like it to be zero, but that simply isn't practicable.  You can't get it to zero with any kind of actions by the cities.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7656 on: August 30, 2020, 08:31:39 AM »
Well, if we give Obama credit for two major things, most of which was done early on in his administration, I think it fair to ask if he tried seriously to get anything else done after that.  There was an adjustment to the top marginal tax bracket, which was pretty small.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7657 on: August 30, 2020, 08:35:08 AM »
Trump's a buffoon, but he's a buffoon who knows the difference between hurting "his" people and hurting the others.
I agree with this however,Biden was caught on camera lying thru teeth back in the '80's/90's.About his 5th place finish in law class when he was like 76th out of 85 or some such.Then he purloined a speech from a member of the British Parliament which was taped word for word.Seriously I'll be abstaining in November at least on POTUS vote
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