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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7476 on: August 29, 2020, 01:55:49 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 28, 2020, 11:55:14 PM
Yes- it is funny. Start riots and then blame POTUS for the violence. Stretch out the pandemic as long as you can to kill the economy and then blame POTUS for a bad economy LOL
This is another case where you're putting yourself in someone else's shoes and assuming they're doing what you would do in the same situation.

Not everyone is like you.  Not YOU you, but the royal you.


Like the lady in Amarillo who I once asked, "Is there a bookstore around here?"  And replied with, "an adult bookstore?"  No, what? No.  That's where her head was at.  

Just because you'd stretch out the pandemic for political reasons doesn't mean they are.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7477 on: August 29, 2020, 07:02:02 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 28, 2020, 11:52:21 PM
Yes, it’s called a liberal playbook.

rule number one do bad things and clean the other side is doing it. Get the main stream media to help you.

Rule number two, walk into the peaceful house party, start a riot, kill people, create Mayham, then walk out look back and point and say what a horrible homeowner he is look what he’s got going on in his yard 

That’s why the liberal media and most liberals find the pandemic to be the greatest thing that ever happened to them.
Ah yes, I've seen my parents twice all year and my kids get to see other kids like six times all year.  It's really great.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7478 on: August 29, 2020, 08:04:38 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 29, 2020, 01:55:49 AM
This is another case where you're putting yourself in someone else's shoes and assuming they're doing what you would do in the same situation.

Not everyone is like you.  Not YOU you, but the royal you.


Like the lady in Amarillo who I once asked, "Is there a bookstore around here?"  And replied with, "an adult bookstore?"  No, what? No.  That's where her head was at. 

Just because you'd stretch out the pandemic for political reasons doesn't mean they are.
You know the reaction you had when the lady asked if you were looking for an adult bookstore?  That was my reaction when you said pro-lifers real motivation was making sure there were enough minorities to do the jobs they didn’t want.  Not everyone is like you.  Just because you would oppose abortion for that reason doesn’t mean we are, but that is where your head is.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7479 on: August 29, 2020, 08:27:31 AM »
The COVID crisis obviously has damaged Trump politically, just as it would have damaged any President in office right now.  The politicians out there could well seek to leverage that damage by prolonging the pain.  I doubt many of "us" would do that, but politicians like POWER.  Many are rather unprincipled in my opinion.

Even if you think Trump has handled this badly, he's not unique in that respect if you look at most EU countries.  Many are worse off, and their heads of state have suffered as well politically.  So, it seems pretty likely that SOME politicians hope to prolong and worsen this for political reasons.

Without it, Trump has a pretty solid campaign item, the economy, that has dissipated, largely.  With it, he's obviously vulnerable.

So, at this point, which Democrat in office would want to lessen the impact of the pandemic to the economy?  Some probably, not all.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7480 on: August 29, 2020, 08:28:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 29, 2020, 01:52:47 AM
They're his ads, watch them. 
what the hell does that mean?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7481 on: August 29, 2020, 08:31:00 AM »
As for changes that would make protesters "happy", this is obviously a local issue.  Some localities will probably pass some items that may appease some protesters, but not all.  My GUESS is a lot of city councils will try and figure out how to provide some lip service and pass some "defund the police" stuff that really is marginal and minimal and down the road.

But no matter what they do, the next time a black man is shot by police, there will be more protests.  We're in the cycle now, there is nothing that can quell it legislatively.  Winter will help obviously.

The police kill about 3 people a day, we don't seem to hear about the vast majority of them.  Some context and perspective might be useful, like how many black LEOs kill white suspects, etc.  It would also help if preliminary findings were released in a couple of days.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7482 on: August 29, 2020, 08:33:00 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 29, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
what the hell does that mean?
I infer he meant you can figure out what Biden wants by watching his ads.

I disagree, but have at it.

I usually ponder what THREE things a candidate would really like to get done in office.  They rarely do more than three things in a term as President that are of consequence.  I'm not sure what Biden's priorities are beyond some aspirational stuff, like "stop police killings".

That sounds nice of course.  I find ads focus on things that sound nice, but lack enablement and functionality.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7483 on: August 29, 2020, 08:45:34 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 29, 2020, 08:28:07 AM
what the hell does that mean?
Do you really think that gender bending anarchist snoflake like gator guy will put the tube of glue down long enough to give you anything that remotely resembles a reasonable answer
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7484 on: August 29, 2020, 08:48:44 AM »
I don't think watching a political ad is any more revealing than watching an ad to buy this car or that.  Ads today rarely reveal anything useful in making some purchase determination.  They mostly are imagery, and political ads are no exception.

Human beings are less influenced by fact and logic and data than imagery, so that's what we get (along with the mute button).

The wife often watches local news with of course is replete with political ads, 99% imagery, maybe a little factoid slipped in at the beginning.  The factoids often as not are not relevant to much in my view.

What are the three things he'd like to achieve in office?  Not aspirational goo, but real things.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7485 on: August 29, 2020, 08:50:03 AM »
they don't really care to change any meaningful 3 things
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7486 on: August 29, 2020, 08:52:14 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 29, 2020, 08:33:00 AM
I infer he meant you can figure out what Biden wants by watching his ads.

I disagree, but have at it.

I usually ponder what THREE things a candidate would really like to get done in office.  They rarely do more than three things in a term as President that are of consequence.  I'm not sure what Biden's priorities are beyond some aspirational stuff, like "stop police killings".

That sounds nice of course.  I find ads focus on things that sound nice, but lack enablement and functionality.
OAM stated that everything Trump is accusing Biden of if elected he is doing it himself

you saw my response so watching Bidens ads does not address this

basically Im asking OAM what things is Trump doing that he has accused Biden of going to do if elected
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7487 on: August 29, 2020, 08:53:43 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 29, 2020, 08:50:03 AM
they don't really care to change any meaningful 3 things
I think they do at times.  I can list what Obama changed for example, a few items, not that many, and Trump.

It's usually three things in four years, about, without a black swan event.

Biden's three things?  One would be to partly reverse the Trump tax cuts.  I'm sure about 2 and 3.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7488 on: August 29, 2020, 08:54:12 AM »
If the voting public knew what Biden really would do if elected they would be very concerned
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7489 on: August 29, 2020, 08:55:01 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on August 29, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
basically Im asking OAM what things is Trump doing that he has accused Biden of going to do if elected

I'd guess they are more along the lines of dividing the country, not being a unifier, killing the economy, and ruining trade.  Something akin to that.

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