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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6160 on: August 08, 2020, 11:03:47 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6161 on: August 08, 2020, 11:06:08 PM »
Well we have a lot of very opinionated people here but for some reason nobody wants to actually talk about issues versus people in parties.

I keep trying but no luck.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6162 on: August 08, 2020, 11:09:12 PM »
Two clicks.  There are plenty more. Your the one ignoring reality.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-virginia-mail-carrier-admits-attempted-election-fraud
So in West Virginia some guy messed around with Democrats' ballot requests, and this is a sign of a conspiracy against Trump?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6163 on: August 08, 2020, 11:09:59 PM »
Well we have a lot of very opinionated people here but for some reason nobody wants to actually talk about issues versus people in parties.

I keep trying but no luck.

Talk to all you Democrats in the morning
What issue?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6164 on: August 08, 2020, 11:13:11 PM »
So in West Virginia some guy messed around with Democrats' ballot requests, and this is a sign of a conspiracy against Trump?
Who said anything about a conspiracy against POTUS?  He didn’t.  You mentioned fraudulent.  He did too but also he mentions the huge potential for errors an delays. 

Again the narrative you’re pushing here which is completely false is that he himself is claiming there’s some conspiracy. That’s just flat out not true
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6165 on: August 08, 2020, 11:13:49 PM »
I suggested way up thread that we stop talking about people and the two parties and instead actually discuss issues and I threw out two issues there to get opinions but nobody responded.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6166 on: August 08, 2020, 11:26:43 PM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HoHDxiANFM4

Democrat Jerry Nadler warning of the potential fraud with paper ballots in 2004.  This isn’t something Republicans suddenly came up with a month ago.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6167 on: August 08, 2020, 11:42:48 PM »
Parties make talking points of whatever suits them when it helps them.  Then they drop it and move on to the next thing.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6168 on: August 09, 2020, 12:30:20 AM »
You are correct that there are some “Republicans “who aren’t for the traditional Republican things but rather want to on the liberals. What I’m saying is it’s the exact same way on the left where the normal things Democrats stand for like free speech for example are the furthest thing from their minds they just want to own the conservatives.  In fact I would say today’s Democratic Party is totally unrecognizable
Oh, I agree about the Democrats.  But they've been a lost cause since 1972 (McGovern--"I'll go on my knees to Hanoi") so I don't worry about them so much.  It's just the same-old, same-old.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6169 on: August 09, 2020, 07:53:21 AM »
Who said anything about a conspiracy against POTUS?  He didn’t.  You mentioned fraudulent.  He did too but also he mentions the huge potential for errors an delays.

Again the narrative you’re pushing here which is completely false is that he himself is claiming there’s some conspiracy. That’s just flat out not true
He said a Republican would "never be elected again" if voters voted by mail.  Sounds like either a conspiracy or just an admission that making it easier to vote would hurt him.  Either way, not particularly American.

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« Reply #6170 on: August 09, 2020, 07:55:41 AM »
Oh, I agree about the Democrats.  But they've been a lost cause since 1972 (McGovern--"I'll go on my knees to Hanoi") so I don't worry about them so much.  It's just the same-old, same-old.
The Democrats and Republicans probably are unrecognizable from 1972.  This is good, because I don't know that the politics of today and that of 1972 are exactly the same.  Whatever the issues are, the parties slice them up and spit out a response.  My point is that because of the electoral college, the parties don't need to care about a lot of issues, because a lot of voters don't matter.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6171 on: August 09, 2020, 09:34:56 AM »
What is an example of one such issue?

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« Reply #6172 on: August 09, 2020, 10:07:43 AM »
What is an example of one such issue?
Picking a state at random, I chose Montana, which Trump carried by 20 points on 2016. There is no real reason for either Biden or Trump to campaign in Montana given the electoral college math. Googling Montana, I've discovered a big issue there is landlocked public land, where land owned by the state for public use isn't being used because it's surrounded by private property. An issue I've never thought about for a second, and the candidates have no inventive to care about either.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6173 on: August 09, 2020, 10:19:24 AM »
Big national issue?  If we had a popular vote, would this get notice?

 

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