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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5278 on: July 23, 2020, 04:44:01 PM »
criminals don't worry much about gun laws
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5279 on: July 23, 2020, 04:47:11 PM »
Of course not, but imagine you are a gang thug with a gun.  Does it matter to you if it has a serial number?  Not much.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5280 on: July 23, 2020, 04:52:45 PM »
Most of the time I see that additional charge when (if) charges are brought. I'll start posting those as I see them.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5281 on: July 23, 2020, 05:15:51 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5282 on: July 23, 2020, 05:36:37 PM »
Well, let's imagine a thug is caught with the gun he used to commit a crime, say robbery.  If it has a serial number, he's not charged with anything else, if the serial number is missing (for a post-1968 gun), he has an additional charge brought.

So, he's better off leaving it intact, and no worse off.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5283 on: July 23, 2020, 05:45:33 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 23, 2020, 05:36:37 PM
Well, let's imagine a thug is caught with the gun he used to commit a crime, say robbery.  If it has a serial number, he's not charged with anything else, if the serial number is missing (for a post-1968 gun), he has an additional charge brought.

So, he's better off leaving it intact, and no worse off.
I think you're missing my point. Most of them come into Chicago without the numbers.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5284 on: July 23, 2020, 06:04:16 PM »
Why?  Who has an interest in removing the numbers?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5285 on: July 23, 2020, 08:48:32 PM »
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« Reply #5286 on: July 23, 2020, 09:36:53 PM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5287 on: July 23, 2020, 09:37:28 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 23, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
And yet, we continue to bail them out?


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This is the part of all this I think will be fascinating. 

If there is a large-scale shutdown, or even something that takes a sizable bite out of the sport, does it contract, at least in the middle?

Even if Wisconsin is short $100 million, schools such as that will eventually return to some level because the interest is still there. You might accelerate lower attendance and see coaching salaries slip, but in the end, schools like Michigan/OSU/Alabama to MSU/Purdue/Oregon/Arizona State can probably rally the interest to create some kind of big-time program.

But Rutgers is not that. A school like Vandy maybe could just because it tasted SEC money. Wake Forest feels borderline. But Rutgers is in the realm of some mid-majors who have the teams just because they've long had them. If there's a restart, App State or Ga. Southern or Boise probably have the will to get back in the game. Does Rutgers or NIU or Kent State or UConn or UNLV?

A lot of small schools can probably pull it off because they never cost that much to begin with (Oberlin has football), assuming those schools survive themselves. But I foresee a hollowing out of the middle of the sport. If that comes to pass, it'll be extra interesting to see what happens to the bottom of P5 schedules. Do they go deeper looking for patsies (would be interesting), or do they make the P5 more insular and live with the lower average results at the bottom end?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5288 on: July 24, 2020, 10:31:41 AM »
I'm OK with trimming the fat. Being at 11 would be great.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5289 on: July 24, 2020, 10:54:57 AM »
with a 10 game schedule
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5290 on: July 24, 2020, 11:01:33 AM »
Correct.
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« Reply #5291 on: July 24, 2020, 11:11:25 AM »
Hoping to avoid another high-profile confrontation between police and protesters like the clash that happened last week, Mayor Lori Lightfoot ordered the statues of Christopher Columbus removed from Chicago’s Grant and Arrigo parks overnight.

Not all Italian American leaders in Chicago are on board with the decision, but it has received the blessing of some groups, sources said. By taking the statues down, Lightfoot may draw criticism from those who believe she caved to activist demands.

Later Friday morning, the mayor’s office released a statement saying that she had both statues “temporarily removed ... until further notice.”

“This step is about an effort to protect public safety and to preserve a safe space for an inclusive and democratic public dialogue about our city’s symbols,” the statement said. “In addition, our public safety resources must be concentrated where they are most needed throughout the city, and particularly in our South and West Side communities.”

Lightfoot’s abrupt move in the dark of night was an about-face for the mayor, who has opposed taking down statues of the Italian explorer on the grounds that it would be erasing history. The mayor’s office statement Friday morning said that the city would soon announce “a formal process to assess each of the monuments, memorials, and murals across Chicago’s communities, and develop a framework for creating a public dialogue to determine how we elevate our city’s history and diversity.”


Crews arrived at Grant Park sometime around 1:00 a.m. and began the process of bringing down the monument honoring Columbus a little afterward. A couple dozen people cheered from across the street and passing cars honked as the statue came down at about 3 a.m. Friday morning.

It was not immediately clear where the statues were taken. Reports from television stations showed the statue in Arrigo Park, 801 S. Loomis St., in Chicago’s historic Little Italy neighborhood, was removed a few hours after the downtown statue.


The Grant Park removal capped off an at-times surreal evening. Late Thursday, Chicago Fraternal Order of Police president John Catanzara made his way to the downtown statue wearing an “Italia” T-shirt. He lounged around, talking with cops, criticizing Lightfoot, and promising there would be a pro-police protest there on Saturday even if the statue stayed in place..

He also got into debates with anti-Columbus protesters, some of which grew heated.
Ald. Brian Hopkins, 2nd, whose ward includes parts of downtown, said the mayor decided to remove the statue “unilaterally.”

Northwest Side Ald. Anthony Napolitano, 41st, posted on Facebook: "I have never been more disappointed, not only for the removal of a city statue, but the cowardly fashion in which it was removed in the middle of the night." 



“The American way to remove the Christopher Columbus statue should have been a discussion, debate and decision made by the City Council,” Napolitano wrote. “The city didn’t just lose a statue on the sneak last night, it lost its sense of decency and American soul!”


The removal also drew comparisons from Ald. Raymond Lopez, 15th, to former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s midnight bulldozing of Meigs Field in March 2003. Lopez later took to Twitter with his criticism of the mayor’s decision.



“What has become of Chicago? We have a mayor forced into submission by anarchy & mob-rule? No more public process, official discourse, or on-the-record debate,” tweeted Lopez, a frequent Lightfoot critic. “The lesson learned is that if you want action from Lightfoot, show up en mass at her house & she will cave every time.”

Protesters marched downtown last Friday then headed into Grant Park, where a group of people attempted to take down the statue, similar to what’s happened in other cities across the country.



But chaos followed the protest as officers and demonstrators clashed around the statue. At least 20 complaints of police brutality were filed against Chicago cops, including one involving activist Miracle Boyd, who said she was hit in the face by a police officer during the skirmish, knocking out at least one of her teeth.

Lightfoot and police leaders blamed a group of protesters wielding black umbrellas and shields for inciting what they called “anarchy.” Lightfoot also said she isn’t happy with officers who may have mistreated protesters or reporters.

Chicago’s statues of the explorer have become a heated controversy for Lightfoot, who also has rejected calls to rename the Columbus Day holiday.

Columbus has been condemned by activists around the country who point to the Italian explorer’s mistreatment of Indigenous people after he landed in the Americas in 1492.

Earlier in the evening, protesters gathered near Lightfoot’s Logan Square home to criticize the police. Drawing loud cheers, hugs and applause, an activist informed the crowd over a megaphone that Lightfoot would be removing the statue.

The Tribune first reported news of the mayor’s plans to remove the Grant Park statue.

Northwest Side Ald. Rossana Rodriguez Sanchez, 33rd, traveled downtown to watch the statue’s removal and shared her thoughts on Twitter.

“It’s coming down because of the activism that has led to this moment,” she wrote. “Indigenous, Black and Brown people have been fighting for so long to see this happen.”
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