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Cincydawg

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5264 on: July 23, 2020, 01:27:02 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2020, 01:12:40 PM
For a gun to be legal in Illinois, its owner must possess a FOID card. You cannot buy or own a gun legally without one.

None of these thugs have a FOID card, so any gun in their possession is illegal.
That's a state law, not Federal.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5265 on: July 23, 2020, 01:28:54 PM »
but, that's a state law
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5266 on: July 23, 2020, 02:05:35 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 23, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
That's a state law, not Federal.


Right, but does transporting a stolen gun or gun without numbers across a state line illegal?

The thugs aren't going to a gun shop for their guns.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5267 on: July 23, 2020, 02:07:32 PM »
If ATF catches someone in the act, it's Federal.  But not just if they have a gun illegally on their person.

You need an in state driver's license to buy a gun in a state, and then transporting across a state line is not illegal.  I've done it often.

If I want to purchase out of state, I have to have it shipped to an in state FFL.



 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5268 on: July 23, 2020, 02:17:03 PM »
What happens mostly with these thugs is that they buy stolen guns and guns with no numbers. So, the "runner" is "from" Indiana, for example, and he gathers the guns and grinds off the numbers. Then he takes them to market in Chicago. That does not sound legal. Even selling an unnumbered gun to a thug would be illegal, no??
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5269 on: July 23, 2020, 02:22:30 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 23, 2020, 12:46:27 PM
Would the Feds have to be deputized?  Murder (in general) is not a Federal crime, nor is much else that's happening there.
Does it really matter anymore?You want to find a criminal you hire one.Let Pelosi say shit to them.If things get much worse I'd imagine she'd be one of the 1st to bolt - or move into her government built Bunker
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5270 on: July 23, 2020, 02:26:54 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2020, 02:05:35 PM
Right, but does transporting a stolen gun or gun without numbers across a state line illegal?
If they don't have a conceal carry for that state I'd imagine it would be.Which I doubt in most cases prolly not
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5271 on: July 23, 2020, 02:43:47 PM »
I'm looking for a Federal law being broken. Tough to prove anything, regardless, unless the carrier is caught going over the border??
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5272 on: July 23, 2020, 03:07:45 PM »
if the source of the drugs or guns is from out of state I guess that would be federal.  How about protesters coming in from out of state to commit crimes while protesting?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5273 on: July 23, 2020, 03:23:13 PM »
That's a Federal Charge. An Illinois man was charged recently for f'ing around in Minnesota.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5274 on: July 23, 2020, 04:02:58 PM »
Removing the serial number is illegal.  However, in general, serial numbers are not tracked, so it doesn't matter much.  I'm not sure why they bother unless they combine that with gun registration (which is not the norm).

I doubt the thugs care about serial numbers.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5275 on: July 23, 2020, 04:32:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 23, 2020, 04:02:58 PM
Removing the serial number is illegal.  However, in general, serial numbers are not tracked, so it doesn't matter much.  I'm not sure why they bother unless they combine that with gun registration (which is not the norm).

I doubt the thugs care about serial numbers.
Federal?
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5276 on: July 23, 2020, 04:36:21 PM »
ยง 478.34 Removed, obliterated, or altered serial number.
No person shall knowingly transport, ship, or receive in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered, or possess or receive any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered and has, at any time, been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.
[T.D. ATF-313, 56 FR 32508, July 17, 1991]


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #5277 on: July 23, 2020, 04:37:37 PM »
My GUESS is that the VAST majority of these guns retain their serial number.  I don't know why the thugs would care either way really.  And if for some reason they are apprehended with a gun so changed they have an additional charge to add to the sheet, so why would they bother?

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