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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4830 on: July 13, 2020, 09:36:19 AM »
I don’t care if someone thinks America is the greatest country in the world or not.  I admit I don’t understand when people seem embarrassed to be American and the tone of OAM’s posts smacks of that.

Now, I’m sure he’ll deny that and remind everyone he never actually said that but that was the distinct impression I got.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4831 on: July 13, 2020, 10:48:18 AM »
As I've noted, I don't view this group of people as being somehow a lot different from that group of people, at the core.

I could argue the French are often delusional obviously, as are most everyone else around the world, including me.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4832 on: July 13, 2020, 10:49:08 AM »
As Sunday drew to a close in Chicago, a 15-year-old girl was shot while standing on a West Side street, just half an hour after two teenaged boys were wounded while sitting in a car at a South Side gas station.

The attacks capped another violent weekend in the city, with at least 10 people killed and 50 others wounded. The youngest victim was a 15-year-old boy shot dead on the Far South Side, blocks from where his older brother was fatally shot in April.

The level of violence was similar to the same weekends in 2016 and 2017, the worst years for shootings in Chicago since the 1990s.


This was the first weekend since a new specialized citywide unit was announced to stop flare-ups in violence. It was also the fourth weekend in a row that a child under 16 was fatally shot in Chicago.

Over the July 4 weekend, a 7-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy were killed. The weekend before, a 20-month-old boy and a 10-year-old girl were killed. A week earlier, five children were fatally shot, including a 3-year-old boy riding in a car with his father.

On Sunday night, two boys 14 and 17 were in a car with a 20-year-old man when a silver SUV approached and someone opened fire around 11:30 p.m. in the 7000 block of South Damen Avenue in the West Englewood neighborhood, police said.

The man was shot several times and taken to Holy Cross Hospital, where he was pronounced dead, police said.



The older teenager was shot in the right arm and the younger one was shot in the back, police said. 

They were both taken to Comer Children’s Hospital in good condition.


No arrests have been made.

Just before midnight, a 15-year-old girl was shot on the West Side, police said. She and a 29-year-old man were standing on a sidewalk in the 4200 block of West Monroe Street in the West Garfield Park neighborhood when they heard gunshots, police said.


The man was shot in the calf and the girl was shot in the left knee, calf and shoulder, police said. They were both taken to Stroger Hospital in good condition.


No arrests have been made.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4833 on: July 13, 2020, 10:57:44 AM »
"The level of violence was similar to the same weekends in 2016 and 2017, the worst years for shootings in Chicago since the 1990s."

I infer that the levels of violence had dropped off in 2018 and 2019, why I don't know.  Is there anything changed in the current crime situation?  COVID related?  Protest related?  Or just the way it is?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4834 on: July 13, 2020, 11:09:59 AM »
This year? I think it's related to cops being neutered across the country, but that's speculation only.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4835 on: July 13, 2020, 11:13:49 AM »
The paper says it was this bad 2016-7.  And the cops of course generally arrive after the crime took place.

And then no one wants to talk or saw anything.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4836 on: July 13, 2020, 11:25:06 AM »
Right, but violence seemed to drop for a couple of years there, under Eddie Johnson's leadership. Things are blowing up again.

And yes, there is a code of silence.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4837 on: July 13, 2020, 11:55:56 AM »
Jeez that's horrifying, badge.

Do these tend to be gang related hits, and the children are just caught in the crossfire?  Or are they random?  Or are kids being intentionally targeted for reasons of intimidation or something?

I just don't understand how one human can do that to another.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4838 on: July 13, 2020, 12:00:16 PM »
I think some is random, but I've been reading that the members are getting younger and younger.

Obviously, the 20 month old baby lost last weekend was random.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4839 on: July 13, 2020, 12:17:32 PM »
I'd sure as hell find a way to get my family out of there

if I had to steal a shopping cart and walk out with whatever belongings would fit
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4840 on: July 13, 2020, 01:35:35 PM »
Then kids are being taught wrong, lol.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4841 on: July 13, 2020, 03:26:58 PM »
I'd sure as hell find a way to get my family out of there

if I had to steal a shopping cart and walk out with whatever belongings would fit
Humans are remarkably adaptable to conditions.  I'd imagine folks in that neighborhood have friends and relatives nearby and likely are unable to find another place to live they can afford, or they would leave.  Those who can have, mostly, I'd imagine.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4842 on: July 13, 2020, 03:48:53 PM »
Yes, many have fled for the South suburbs. They are affordable options for people who want out of the City. The trouble is a general lack of public transit options down there. None of the current CTA routes leave the City down there, and there is only one Metra line.



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #4843 on: July 13, 2020, 05:48:15 PM »
This year? I think it's related to cops being neutered across the country, but that's speculation only.
The Ferguson Effect.   Same thing is happening in MSP right now. 

 

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