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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3878 on: June 24, 2020, 07:39:23 AM »
It's a very common feature everywhere.  It's a pull handle, not something nefarious or intended to be a "noose".  Only an idiot would think it was a noose or had anything to do with a noose.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3879 on: June 24, 2020, 07:56:39 AM »
NASCAR must have a lot of idiots for them to see it and call the FBI

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3880 on: June 24, 2020, 08:01:00 AM »
Ya of course the media immediately recognized this not want wanting to create a stir
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3881 on: June 24, 2020, 08:10:47 AM »
It only takes ONE idiot to cause this stir.  Wallace says he never saw the knot at least early on.

Now it's says it's a noose for hanging.

What COULD have happened is some mechanic found it lying in the corner and went to throw it out, knowing it was the knot used as a garage handle and had been replaced at some point and not discarded.  He showed it to some "idiot" as a joke saying "Hey, a noose!" thinking the other person would laugh, but it got reported as a noose.

Garage humor gone wrong.

He tries to clarify but by then the story is out.  He explains to the FBI and shows them the knot all over the garages.  They look askance at the whole deal and try and wrap it up gracefully.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3882 on: June 24, 2020, 08:12:46 AM »
I'm just glad the Palomar knot doesn't look like a noose, how would I fish?
Real Fisherman know to use the improved clinch knot instead 😎

https://tyepro.com/blogs/news/improved-clinch-vs-palomar-and-does-it-matter
But even then, the results of experts may hinge on their own preferences. We can safely assume that Berwin was a qualified judge. Yet a similar study from Fly Fisherman magazine found the improved clinch to be the third best of 15 knots tested, beating out the palomar.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3883 on: June 24, 2020, 08:19:14 AM »
My thought is that it was clearly a noose.  Someone fashioned the garage door pull using a noose knot, and it wasn't until NASCAR banned confederate flags and some  guy was flying one over the track and Wallace was assigned to that garage that anyone noticed it.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3884 on: June 24, 2020, 08:22:38 AM »
In other news, the number of restaurants not reopened around us is concerning, many of them have posted notices that they are permanently done.

One opened and has closed because two of their staff tested positive.

We peek in the nicer places that reopened and they have almost no one seated inside.  We dined at South City Kitchen the other day, their sister down the street Lure is not open, and they had a 20% surcharge on the menu that I questioned, it was basically to help the place out.  The server said he had been out of work 91 days.  I left a large cash tip.

A noodle place just opened and is quite good, we dined there last night.  A burger place opened just before this happened and they seem to be hanging in, the other burger place is still closed.  (The best burger place near us is open and crowded, again, limited parking and hard to get into.)

The French restaurant is open and has outdoor seating which is a bit close to a busy street but we dine outside preferably.

We go there for the atmosphere.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3885 on: June 24, 2020, 08:23:46 AM »
My thought is that it was clearly a noose.  Someone fashioned the garage door pull using a noose knot, and it wasn't until NASCAR banned confederate flags and some  guy was flying one over the track and Wallace was assigned to that garage that anyone noticed it.

So, you disagree with the FBI?

The folks who looked into this and said there is nothing to it?

Interesting, another case of confirmation bias.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3886 on: June 24, 2020, 08:31:02 AM »
So, you disagree with the FBI?

The folks who looked into this and said there is nothing to it?

Interesting, another case of confirmation bias.
They didn't say there was nothing to it.  They said exactly what I said, that it was a garage door pull "fashioned like a noose" and placed there last year.  My point is that a noose hanging down might not be much of a big deal until there is a black guy in the garage and people are flying confederate flags overhead.  Then it looks like a message, not a garage door pull.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3887 on: June 24, 2020, 08:34:23 AM »
I have yet to go out to eat but still take advantage of the food trucks that come around the neighborhood since this started.  My dream is that food trucks get even more popular, they relax the liquor laws, and we get a different traveling restaurant every day.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3888 on: June 24, 2020, 08:40:45 AM »
The FBI said Tuesday the noose had been in the garage since last year and Wallace was therefore not a victim of a hate crime. NASCAR, mentioning the FBI report, described the item as a "garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose."

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3889 on: June 24, 2020, 08:42:00 AM »
One possible explanation ....

This rope had been replaced and somehow left in the corner.  Some mechanic who knew what it was found it and went to throw it out and held it up for someone else, perhaps visitor or something, and said "Hey, look, a noose!" as a joke.  That neophyte reported it to the President of NASCAR who now felt he had to take action.  The original mechanic tried to explain, was forced to retrieve the noose from the trash, and now the word had spread.

So, they call the FBI, who sends agents who talk to everyone, see the "noose" and fairly quickly write it up trying to limit the damage to all parties.  Henceforth, all garage door pulls use handles instead of the simple knot.

It is one possibility, an example of how something gets out of hand quickly in this environment.  As to why Wallace wants to maintain this is a real noose, well, you can draw your own conclusions.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3890 on: June 24, 2020, 08:42:01 AM »
The FBI said Tuesday the noose had been in the garage since last year and Wallace was therefore not a victim of a hate crime. NASCAR, mentioning the FBI report, described the item as a "garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose."
Yes, exactly.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #3891 on: June 24, 2020, 08:43:29 AM »
My thought is that it was clearly a noose.  Someone fashioned the garage door pull using a noose knot, and it wasn't until NASCAR banned confederate flags and some  guy was flying one over the track and Wallace was assigned to that garage that anyone noticed it.

This is nonsensical to me, inconsistent with reported facts.


 

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