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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2926 on: June 08, 2020, 11:28:00 AM »
https://spectator.us/andrew-sullivan-new-york-column-riots/

New York magazine forbids gay, Obama-supporting semi-conservative writer Andrew Sullivan from writing about the violence accompanying the marches lest he criticize it.
I haven't read his writing, but I really like him when he's been a guest on TV.  

I can't help but think if his and the editors' roles were reversed, this wouldn't be posted here, though.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2927 on: June 08, 2020, 11:28:45 AM »
I don't think he realizes this, nor would accept it.
Nor should he.  That is a deflection the other way if a person believes the protests are out of control to begin with.  
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2928 on: June 08, 2020, 11:29:23 AM »
Protests, and riots, are an explosion of pent-up anger. Looters of course are opportunists riding on top of riots.

Protests and riots about police brutality don't happen when there's not egregious examples of police brutality in the news, but the anger is under the surface because the problem is always lingering under the surface.

John Oliver's piece, primarily, was on what led to all that pent-up anger. How we got here, what we can do to fix it.

While I'm not excusing the riots/looters, focusing on the effect of the problem instead of the cause of the problem is a tactic of deflection.
His "character" definitely comes off as the pompous Brit, and some of his over the top incredulousnous can be tiring, but he does often make some good points. I think the meat of the episode was solid.
first of all looting and property damage to a community should never be tolerated and thats why we need a police force

The whole problem was the looting and property damage

It hijacked the protesters movement and thats a shame but never the less is the fact

A bad cop murdered a black man and is being prosecuted for that crime but I'll be damned if I'm going to bow down and say I have white privilege and allow you to burn my property because of it

thats whats crap

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2929 on: June 08, 2020, 11:29:43 AM »
  As it is- they are cussing and demeaning and shouting in the face of the police.
Seems like small potatoes, as the police keep brutalizing unarmed protesters WHILE the nation watches.  It's like they don't even get it.

Oh, and what started all of this, another unarmed murder.  So let's not bitch about demeaning and shouting....
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2930 on: June 08, 2020, 11:30:01 AM »
Coolio.

I'm okay with the head unit in our new Jeep.  It's not great, but it will do.  The speakers on the other hand are pretty bad.  Below average for sure, which is disappointing because they need to be BETTER than average to cut through the additional road noise you get in a Jeep.  The speakers on my wife's Toyota convertible were fantastic, by comparison. 
So I'm thinking new speakers will be one of our first upgrades.  Well, after the new front bumper and winch, which are already on order and en route. :)
Based on the pic, yours is also a Rubicon, right? Do you have the premium audio system? 

If so, check all the specs carefully. My first upgrade was the main speakers, which were coaxial drop-in replacements for the stock speakers made by Kicker. Everyone talked about what an upgrade they were over stock, but few people mentioned that the premium Infinity audio system in the Jeep during my years was driving all the speakers with 2 ohm output on the amp, and the Kickers were 4 ohm speakers. So I was woefully under-driving them with my system. Basically the amp which puts out 45W per channel @ 2 ohm was only giving me about half that at 4 ohm, and the speakers are rated for 75W @ 4 ohm, so I wasn't even close to driving them properly. 

That's how I ended up with a MUCH more in-depth build than I originally wanted. 


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2931 on: June 08, 2020, 11:30:10 AM »
I wouldn't put it exactly that way, but, yeah.
Having plastic surgery and taking hormone treatments doesn't change anyone's sex.
Notice how "gender" (which originally just referred to categories of nouns) has replaced "sex" in our public conversation?  On applications and questionnaires, for example.
IMO, someone who believes that a man who has had the procedure you describe as some sort of woman is an example of only seeing evidence that supports one's own beliefs.
And someone like J.K. Rowling must be hounded from the public square lest people hear inconvenient and unpleasant truths.
I'm reminded of the "trans-female" invasion of girls' sports.  The "transitioning" boys somehow win all the events.
Yeah I’m reminded of that MMA fighter who was a male and then had a sex change surgery, got breast implants & had facial plastic surgery, and had female hormone therapy and then started to fight women and was beating the shit out of all the women. Joe Rogan the famous comedian, podcaster, and MMA analyst said this was wrong- that this person that “transitioned” had a big biological and physiological advantage over the women- and that it was dangerous. Of course immediately he was labeled a bigot and got attacked mercilessly by the twitter mob as a transphobe, a bigot, an alt-right white privileged sexist trans hating bigot.

These people on twitter and Facebook are just batshit crazy. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2932 on: June 08, 2020, 11:30:26 AM »
Some of these peaceful protests are only peaceful because of the presence of law enforcement.  In others words- there are two sides to every story.
does anyone really believe for example, that this supposedly peaceful protest in DC would have stopped at the gates of the White House if the law enforcement was not blocking their path?
Really?  As it is- they are cussing and demeaning and shouting in the face of the police.
I agree that there are two sides to the story.  But I think we all believe that the people committing violent acts, looting, burning, initiating attacks on the police, should be arrested and charged with crimes.  Do we have the same expectation for police officers who go overboard?  It seems not.  It seems that many of us make excuses for them.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2933 on: June 08, 2020, 11:31:32 AM »
Nor should he.  That is a deflection the other way if a person believes the protests are out of control to begin with. 
lol, so one's belief > the real problem


I figured as much.  Have fun with that.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2934 on: June 08, 2020, 11:32:38 AM »
A Chicago police officer was shot in the vest after responding to a domestic disturbance in the Austin neighborhood early Monday morning, authorities said.

The officer was taken to Stroger Hospital in good condition, police said.

He and other officers responded to the 500 block of North Leamington Avenue about 12:20 a.m. because a man fired a handgun three or four times during a domestic disturbance, police said.

After they arrived, the man returned to the home through the basement and fired a shot at an officer standing at the top of a staircase, police said.

The round hit the officer near his shoulder and was stopped by the officer’s protective vest. He returned fire. No one was struck.
Police chased the man and he was arrested a few blocks away, near the corner of Lake Street and Latrobe Avenue, police said.

Officers recovered a weapon.


Later, in the Englewood neighborhood, police said someone fired shots at officers about 3:35 a.m. near 72nd Street and Emerald Avenue.

No officers were hit and none returned fire. Police found the shell casings on 74th Street, around a corner onto Emerald Avenue, a little more than 45 minutes after the initial burst of gunfire.

No one was injured.



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2935 on: June 08, 2020, 11:32:56 AM »
I haven't read his writing, but I really like him when he's been a guest on TV. 

I can't help but think if his and the editors' roles were reversed, this wouldn't be posted here, though.
How would his and his editors' roles be reversed?  They'd be ordering him to write about the riots and he'd be refusing???
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2936 on: June 08, 2020, 11:35:13 AM »
He'd be writing about the rioting (as you would have him do) and his editors would be wanting him to include the peaceful protests.  Simple.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2937 on: June 08, 2020, 11:36:27 AM »
One of the things that I hate most about our current situation is that it makes jackasses like John Oliver right.
boy do we disagree on this one CW

but thats ok I still love ya
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2938 on: June 08, 2020, 11:38:46 AM »
Seems like small potatoes, as the police keep brutalizing unarmed protesters WHILE the nation watches.  It's like they don't even get it.

Oh, and what started all of this, another unarmed murder.  So let's not bitch about demeaning and shouting....
How many police have been severely injured, or killed?  Protesters?  It is very one sided.

if there were no police present at all- do you think the violence would be more or less?

there are 2 sides.  Neither has a claim to being righteous.  When media refuses to show a cop being stabbed in a complete ambush- there is a real problem with objectivity. when they refuse to talk about brutal beatings of cops who became detached from their peers.  Of course they show every instance on the other side lol.
I saw a headline the other day: “ watch graphic video of protester being pushed by police”
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2939 on: June 08, 2020, 11:41:48 AM »
lol, so one's belief > the real problem


I figured as much.  Have fun with that.
Your issue is- you think your beliefs are always right.  You just proved it.  

oh wisest of men- pray tell me what the REAL problem is so I can conform with the innovative thinkers in social Media.  
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