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Topic: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2786 on: June 06, 2020, 06:04:27 PM »
When one is curious, one can learn all sorts of trivia.

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We have stayed a couple of times at the hotel in Versailles where all this was hammered out, the Trianon Palace it's called, it's actually part of the Hilton network oddly enough.  I recall pulling up behind a Bugatti and a Rolls in my rented Peugot ...  I would like to do that in a 'Vette some time.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2787 on: June 06, 2020, 06:49:50 PM »

they had burned the church and our Pres was making a "were still here" gesture

While it was burned, saying "they had burned the church" seems like it removes some of the vital context. Not that a basement fire that was quickly put out is a positive, but it wasn't exactly catastrophe. 

Oh, and unfortunately the priests were not still there. While the CIC has the right to go where he wants, that ran over a bit on clergy who were gassed out.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2788 on: June 06, 2020, 07:29:59 PM »
While it was burned, saying "they had burned the church" seems like it removes some of the vital context. Not that a basement fire that was quickly put out is a positive, but it wasn't exactly catastrophe.

Oh, and unfortunately the priests were not still there. While the CIC has the right to go where he wants, that ran over a bit on clergy who were gassed out. 
If you add some diversity to your reading, you will find plenty of clergy that applauded, and criticized the archbishop for his usual liberal stance.
i can’t prove this, but I have a high level of confidence that millions of spiritual people applauded it.  Like everything else these days, it depends which side you are on.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2789 on: June 06, 2020, 08:02:04 PM »
Also, the peaceful protester that organized today’s massive protest, and then went live on camera and threatened to burn Down the Diamond District if the mayor didn’t capitulate to their demands, has now been arrested on terroris charges.

Fairly confident many here won’t see that story.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2790 on: June 06, 2020, 09:52:25 PM »
If you add some diversity to your reading, you will find plenty of clergy that applauded, and criticized the archbishop for his usual liberal stance.
i can’t prove this, but I have a high level of confidence that millions of spiritual people applauded it.  Like everything else these days, it depends which side you are on.
Ahhh, the beauty of the media. Someone somewhere will always say both sides of things. That's the joy of having more than a few high-traction conservative outlets, including far and away the most watched one on cable. 

And shoot, I'm sure a great many of those spiritual people would even applaud if he violated each of the 10 commandments in front of them. As you said, sides and such. That reminded me about the base talk earlier. The point someone made was "doing X drives the CIC and his base closer." Is there some act that drives them apart? It doesn't seem like there is. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2791 on: June 06, 2020, 10:05:40 PM »
Also, the peaceful protester that organized today’s massive protest, and then went live on camera and threatened to burn Down the Diamond District if the mayor didn’t capitulate to their demands, has now been arrested on terroris charges.

Fairly confident many here won’t see that story.

While what he said was pretty deplorable, it seems likely it was probably constitutionally protected speech, grotesque as it is.

Suppose we'll have to see if it sticks. Might be legit. Might be an easy ground to arrest someone for a nice headline. Might get pled down since the person in question doesn't exactly seem like much of an organizer. Just looks like a crazy person they put on TV. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2792 on: June 06, 2020, 10:07:40 PM »
Ahhh, the beauty of the media. Someone somewhere will always say both sides of things. That's the joy of having more than a few high-traction conservative outlets, including far and away the most watched one on cable.

And shoot, I'm sure a great many of those spiritual people would even applaud if he violated each of the 10 commandments in front of them. As you said, sides and such. That reminded me about the base talk earlier. The point someone made was "doing X drives the CIC and his base closer." Is there some act that drives them apart? It doesn't seem like there is.
this is something youd think the media and the left would learn but they never do they keep coming back and saying please sir may I have another and Trump zings them again over and over

the dems have moved so far left that its hard to even recognize the democratic party anymore

its going to be interesting to see if Biden will agree that the police should be defunded
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2793 on: June 06, 2020, 10:13:26 PM »
this is something youd think the media and the left would learn but they never do they keep coming back and saying please sir may I have another and Trump zings them again over and over

the dems have moved so far left that its hard to even recognize the democratic party anymore

its going to be interesting to see if Biden will agree that the police should be defunded
This doesn't really answer the question. 

Do we think there's actually an act that would drive his base from him? Seems like the answer is no. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2794 on: June 06, 2020, 10:22:38 PM »
While what he said was pretty deplorable, it seems likely it was probably constitutionally protected speech, grotesque as it is.

Suppose we'll have to see if it sticks. Might be legit. Might be an easy ground to arrest someone for a nice headline. Might get pled down since the person in question doesn't exactly seem like much of an organizer. Just looks like a crazy person they put on TV.
For it to be considered inciting a riot the words have to be explicit and detailed

if it is a vague threat then its protected

so the question is was this guys threat explicit or was it vague

as an example if I tell a crowd that certain people better watch out or the might be harmed thats vague

but if I said instead lets go to this persons house and burn it down that is not protected speech
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2795 on: June 06, 2020, 10:25:43 PM »
One thing I've finally figured out is this while idea of "moving" left or right is compete crap. You have your collection of beliefs and have to choose from the party most aligned with your those beliefs. But there is a reason "far left" Bernie Sanders attracts support from "far right" voters.

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« Reply #2796 on: June 06, 2020, 10:29:31 PM »
This doesn't really answer the question.

Do we think there's actually an act that would drive his base from him? Seems like the answer is no.
everybody has a limit as to what they will accept and still vote for someone

so far we know a lot of things that dont cross his bases limit

that hes been accused of

its kind of like Edison's search for the right filament for a light bulb

and the left is still searching

the problem the left has is that Trump's base knows what they will get if hes not elected

thats powerful mojo
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2797 on: June 06, 2020, 10:29:36 PM »
What sort of far right voter supports Bernie Sanders?  And why?

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« Reply #2798 on: June 06, 2020, 10:32:26 PM »
One thing I've finally figured out is this while idea of "moving" left or right is compete crap. You have your collection of beliefs and have to choose from the party most aligned with your those beliefs. But there is a reason "far left" Bernie Sanders attracts support from "far right" voters.
thats a new one for me I didnt realize he did unless far right voters is another way of saying socialists
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #2799 on: June 06, 2020, 10:37:11 PM »
everybody has a limit as to what they will accept and still vote for someone

so far we know a lot of things that dont cross his bases limit

that hes been accused of

its kind of like Edison's search for the right filament for a light bulb

and the left is still searching

the problem the left has is that Trump's base knows what they will get if hes not elected

thats powerful mojo
You're seemingly incapable of just addressing the one topic - you oddly have to bring everything back to "the left" and how silly they are.

You should work for a certain news channel.
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