2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[FearlessF]

if the Cowboys will put up with Randy Gregory, they will put up with a lot

never been a fan of Cam - glad my team won't sign him

[ELA]

Also: how is Cam Newton not signed yet ?

Charges f****d up royally taking Justin Herbert #6 overall. They should’ve signed Cam Newton and used that #6 pick on a player to help the team win today- and then drafted Eason in the 4th or Fromm in the 5th.

The problem is you can't bring him in to be a backup.  How many contenders are a QB away?  Maybe Chicago?  I think New England is tanking for Trevor.  Indianapolis would have made sense if they hadn't just signed Rivers.

[Mdot21]

The problem is you can't bring him in to be a backup.  How many contenders are a QB away?  Maybe Chicago?  I think New England is tanking for Trevor.  Indianapolis would have made sense if they hadn't just signed Rivers.

I didn't get Indianapolis signing Rivers. That dude is completely washed up. He is ass now. And he had all the weapons a QB could ask for last year.

I think the Chargers are very close to being a contender. And Justin Herbert was a waste of a pick at #6 overall. He is going to be a bust. Stupid pick. Newton would've been a much better choice there.

I'm with you. New England has to be tanking for Trevor or Fields. They haven't made a single move in free agency, in the draft, or through trades that makes it look like they are even trying to win next year.

[Mdot21]

Schedules were released. This is New England’s schedule. It’s #1 SoS in NFL based off last seasons records. 

vs Miami - 50/50 coin flip 
@ Seattle - L 
vs Raiders - 50/50 coin flip 
@ Chiefs - L 
vs Broncos - Broncos should win 
vs 49ers - L 
@ Bills - L
@ Jets - 50/50 coin flip 
vs Ravens - L 
@ Texans - L 
vs Cardinals - coin flip. Cardinals should be much improved. 
@ Chargers 
@ Rams - they’ll probably lose one of the LA road trip games 
@ Dolphins - this has been a minefield with them even with Brady - L 
vs Bills - 50/50 coin flip
vs Jets - W 

Having a hard time seeing anything better than 8-8. MAYBE 9-7 if they catch a few breaks. Probably more like 5-11/6-10.

[MrNubbz]

I didn't get Indianapolis signing Rivers. That dude is completely washed up. He is ass now. And he had all the weapons a QB could ask for last year.

I think the Chargers are very close to being a contender. And Justin Herbert was a waste of a pick at #6 overall. He is going to be a bust. Stupid pick. Newton would've been a much better choice there.

You prolly didn't have much good to say about Brady in 2000 outside of where he played 😎 Not sure about Herbert though

[ELA]

Well, if Brady hadn't worked out, no harm done.  If Herbert doesn't, that's a wasted opportunity.

I admittedly haven't watched him a ton.  His WRs hung him out to dry a lot, they were awful, particularly in 2018.

[Mdot21]

You prolly didn't have much good to say about Brady in 2000 outside of where he played 😎 Not sure about Herbert though

Like ELA said, Brady was taken in the 6th round, not 6th overall.

Herbert is way too inconsistent and if he was given time to develop maybe he could be something, but when you're the #6 pick and they just cut Phillip Rivers- this dude is going to be pushed into starting right away. And he's not ready. He's being set up to fail.

[OrangeAfroMan]

 He is ass now. 

I love when ass is an adjective.  

[Mdot21]

I love when ass is an adjective. 

Me too lol. But seriously Phillip Rivers is not good anymore and he’s basically 40. 

Andy Dalton or Cam Newton would’ve been way better choices than Rivers for Indianapolis and they both would’ve cost a lot less than $25 million this season. I think Dallas for instance is only paying Dalton $3 million this year with incentives that would push it to $7 million. I never understand the Colts at all snatching Rivers right up after he was cut and giving him a $25 million one year deal. Yeah I get it he had his best statistical season with Frank Reich as his OC in San Diego but that was like almost a decade ago. He’s not the same guy he was 8 years ago.

[FearlessF]

could be worse, Indy could be paying capt Kirk Cousins

[Mdot21]

could be worse, Indy could be paying capt Kirk Cousins

Kirk Cousins mastered the game. Can’t hate the player. Hate the game. He’s made more money by being paid like the elite of the elite than just about anyone in history of the sport- all while being an above average player. Kirk isn’t terrible, he’s not elite. He’s an above average starter. He’s a lot better than about half the starting QBs in the league.  

[FearlessF]

I don't hate the player or his agent

I hate the guy that gave him the contract and gutted the team's talent with the salary cap

similar to knocking Indy for signing Rivers

[OrangeAfroMan]

I think the idea that there aren't enough good QBs to go around is a myth.
In any given season, there are over 32 QBs you could win with.  But the NFL is such a copycat league, that most everyone is trying to win the same way. 
If that's the case, then yeah, you need one of the 6-8 elite QBs to have a meaningful chance...but that's also stupid.  Give credit to Baltimore for doing something different.  Many saw it as risky, but it's not risky if you do a good job, it's merely different.  

Trying to win the same way another team does, but with inferior players, is how you get the same handful of teams picking in the top 5 every year.  

[Mdot21]

I think the idea that there aren't enough good QBs to go around is a myth.
In any given season, there are over 32 QBs you could win with.  But the NFL is such a copycat league, that most everyone is trying to win the same way.
If that's the case, then yeah, you need one of the 6-8 elite QBs to have a meaningful chance...but that's also stupid.  Give credit to Baltimore for doing something different.  Many saw it as risky, but it's not risky if you do a good job, it's merely different. 

Trying to win the same way another team does, but with inferior players, is how you get the same handful of teams picking in the top 5 every year. 

I think what Baltimore has done is trying to copy what the Rams and Seahawks and Chiefs did. Draft a QB and get him on a cheap rookie deal and build the team around him. 

I don’t think they had any idea Lamar Jackson would be this good. If they did they wouldn’t have waited til the end of the first round to get him. They would’ve traded way up instead of taking him at 32. He led the NFL in touchdown passes, broke Vick’s single season QB rushing record, and won the MVP all in his first year as a starter.