2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[ELA]

The Chiefs just dared the NFL to try and beat Patrick Mahomes and a pile of shit

[MrNubbz]

Huh?What happened?

[Mdot21]

Huh?What happened?

Chiefs signed Mahomes to a $400 million extension 

[FearlessF]

does he get some signing $$$

heck, might not play football for a few seasons

[ELA]

Huh?What happened?

Chiefs gave Mahomes their whole cap

[OrangeAfroMan]

After 1 big season.  

[FearlessF]

so Mahomes will have more $$$ than Brady, but only one ring?

[Mdot21]

After 1 big season. 

I'd say he had 2 big seasons. In only 3 years in the leauge. His early career looking a bit like Marino. Can't ever remember a QB so young coming in and just blowing shit up.

Mahomes was a 5,000+ yard, 50+ TD passer and leauge MVP his first year starting and only his 2nd year in the leauge. His 2nd year starting and only 3rd year in the leauge he missed games with a serious knee injury, but still hit over 4k in passing yards despite the missed time and he had maybe the best playoff run of any QB that I can remember since Rodgers was white hot in the playoffs and lead the Packers to the SB in 2010.

Mahomes is the best player in the leauge right now. Not sure how this contract is going to help the Chiefs build a winner though. He's been on a cheap rookie deal and they've had the money to surround him with talent.

Mahomes had 2 years left on his deal, so this 10 year extension was actually for $450 million, and with the 2 years left combined it can reach 12 years, $503 million. But only $141.5 million of that $503 million is guaranteed, and that's an injury only guarantee. I don't think there's much chance he'll ever see the full $503 million.

[Mdot21]

Shea Patterson released by the Chiefs. Really thought he was going to compete with Mahomes for the starting job. 

Lol. 

Funny, how one guy was the National HS player of the year, won the Elite 11 MVP, Army Bowl MVP, and was rated as the #1 QB and #4 player overall in the nation by the crootin services and the other guy was rated as a 3* and the #50 player in his own state. 

[FearlessF]

why I don't bother with star ratings

[Cincydawg]

why I don't bother with star ratings

I think there is a strong correlation between star ratings and eventual NFL performance.  Of course, "correlation" is a term not well understood by some who thing it means there can be no exceptions.

[Mdot21]

I think there is a strong correlation between star ratings and eventual NFL performance.  Of course, "correlation" is a term not well understood by some who thing it means there can be no exceptions.

No doubt there is a strong correlation. Most positions, I feel like the crootin services accurately nail it more times than not. However, I feel like QB is one of the positions they get wrong more than they get right.

QB is the hardest position to scout for NFL teams as well, so this shouldn't come as any surprise.

[ELA]

I think there is a strong correlation between star ratings and eventual NFL performance.  Of course, "correlation" is a term not well understood by some who thing it means there can be no exceptions.

QB and OL, not necessarily

[OrangeAfroMan]

Well never, necessarily. 

All positions trend along recruiting rating lines, adjusted for the size of each rating level.  There will never be a time where a higher % of 3* QBs will "succeed" (by 1st round pick or NFL success or whatever) at a greater % rate of 5* QBs.  Ever. 

The great unknown is that we wind up talking about a sample size of 1:  1 QB, 1 G, 1 CB....and that small a sample is not married to the trend line of the whole.