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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #672 on: May 09, 2020, 02:29:37 AM »
The point is that they didn't have to move up to draft him - there was no danger of anyone else taking him that high.  That's the 'value' Kiper & Co. keep harping on and on about.  
And those teams you listed didn't implement the option like BAL did.  Jackson had so many TD passes because the offense committed to exploiting him as a runner, which opened things up.  He has nowhere near that many TD passes if he's used as a traditional QB....which is why all the teams who would use him as such passed on him.

It wasn't such a gamble because BAL was committed and had a good plan.  They were smart enough to do something different.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #673 on: May 09, 2020, 03:19:32 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2020, 02:29:37 AM
The point is that they didn't have to move up to draft him - there was no danger of anyone else taking him that high.  That's the 'value' Kiper & Co. keep harping on and on about. 
And those teams you listed didn't implement the option like BAL did.  Jackson had so many TD passes because the offense committed to exploiting him as a runner, which opened things up.  He has nowhere near that many TD passes if he's used as a traditional QB....which is why all the teams who would use him as such passed on him.

It wasn't such a gamble because BAL was committed and had a good plan.  They were smart enough to do something different.
Yeah I agree with that. They were smart enough to say we'll build the offense around the player, and they were making the read option and the 3 TE's and the RPO's the staple of their offense, something that the other NFL teams don't do.

Ravens should be really good and so should Jackson as long as they keep that offense and Lamar doesn't get hurt. Washington had a similar thing going, but RG3 got seriously hurt and then wanted to change the offense and become a pocket passer to prove he could be just like Brady or Manning.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #674 on: May 15, 2020, 07:13:28 PM »
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #675 on: May 15, 2020, 07:29:37 PM »
I don't think anyone on any 'side' LIKES this kind of thing, but for anyone to suggest racism isn't still a problem - just look at pro sports HCs/managers.  

Racism isn't just overt hate/attacks/murder.  It's having 22 black guys on the field and 2 white guys in charge of them.  Same with a starting 5.  It's a thing, and it's alive and well.  

Baseball seems to be the most concerned about it and I'd argue they're the least guilty.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #676 on: May 15, 2020, 07:46:06 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 15, 2020, 07:29:37 PM
I don't think anyone on any 'side' LIKES this kind of thing, but for anyone to suggest racism isn't still a problem - just look at pro sports HCs/managers. 

Racism isn't just overt hate/attacks/murder.  It's having 22 black guys on the field and 2 white guys in charge of them.  Same with a starting 5.  It's a thing, and it's alive and well. 

Baseball seems to be the most concerned about it and I'd argue they're the least guilty.
I guess my question is what is the correct number?  With Ron Rivera I believe 7 of the 64 people in HC and GM positions is a minority. That clearly isn’t enough in the eyes of the NFL? What is?

And why is the assumption that because there aren’t more it is because of a prejudice?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #677 on: May 15, 2020, 07:48:20 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on May 15, 2020, 07:46:06 PM
And why is the assumption that because there aren’t more it is because of a prejudice?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #678 on: May 15, 2020, 07:49:02 PM »
Back home where it all started, Justin -- the only first-rounder in the past eight drafts who was an unranked ESPN recruit and signed with an SEC school -- is preparing for his rookie season.

https://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/29921/how-justin-jefferson-went-from-zero-star-recruit-to-vikings-first-round-pick
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #679 on: May 16, 2020, 12:26:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 15, 2020, 07:29:37 PM
I don't think anyone on any 'side' LIKES this kind of thing, but for anyone to suggest racism isn't still a problem - just look at pro sports HCs/managers. 

Racism isn't just overt hate/attacks/murder.  It's having 22 black guys on the field and 2 white guys in charge of them.  Same with a starting 5.  It's a thing, and it's alive and well. 

Baseball seems to be the most concerned about it and I'd argue they're the least guilty.
Give me a f’in break. 

And to the op who linked the article- terrible idea. Leave draft compensation out of it. Retarded idea.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #680 on: May 16, 2020, 02:50:18 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 16, 2020, 12:26:07 AM
Give me a f’in break.
Well who can argue with that?!?  You've changed my mind!
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #681 on: May 18, 2020, 04:24:42 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 15, 2020, 07:29:37 PM
I don't think anyone on any 'side' LIKES this kind of thing, but for anyone to suggest racism isn't still a problem - just look at pro sports HCs/managers. 

Racism isn't just overt hate/attacks/murder.  It's having 22 black guys on the field and 2 white guys in charge of them.  Same with a starting 5.  It's a thing, and it's alive and well. 

Baseball seems to be the most concerned about it and I'd argue they're the least guilty.
So you are saying that the teams are being racist since they don't have any white guys on the field, right?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #682 on: May 18, 2020, 04:31:48 PM »
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #683 on: May 28, 2020, 02:45:11 AM »
Cleveland Browns reportedly the team to beat for Jadeveon Clowney’s services. If they land him, wow. He hasn’t lived up to the #1 overall status or the insane hype- BEST DE PROSPECT EVERRRR- but he’s still a very good player and the Browns pairing him with Myles Garrett would be something to see. 
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #684 on: May 28, 2020, 12:09:27 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 28, 2020, 02:45:11 AM
Cleveland Browns reportedly the team to beat for Jadeveon Clowney’s services. If they land him, wow. He hasn’t lived up to the #1 overall status or the insane hype- BEST DE PROSPECT EVERRRR- but he’s still a very good player and the Browns pairing him with Myles Garrett would be something to see.
A man who has made a lot of money on one big hit in a bowl game. 
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #685 on: May 28, 2020, 12:41:40 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 28, 2020, 02:45:11 AM
Cleveland Browns reportedly the team to beat for Jadeveon Clowney’s services. If they land him, wow. He hasn’t lived up to the #1 overall status or the insane hype- BEST DE PROSPECT EVERRRR- but he’s still a very good player and the Browns pairing him with Myles Garrett would be something to see.
I thought they made him the best offer and he turned them down?
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