2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[OrangeAfroMan]

Imagine these guys now, having offseason jobs.  Bryce Harper pitching socks at JC Penney.  Aaron Rodgers helping you at Ace Hardware....

[ELA]

My FIL loves frequently mentioning that the Pirates' Richie Hebner worked as a custodian at his Catholic school.

[ELA]

Holy smokes.

That WR/TE room is officially insane.

Super Bowl in Tampa this year

[Mdot21]

Super Bowl in Tampa this year

I’ll wait to see who they draft and if they keep OJ Howard. OJ Howard is still on his rookie deal so he’s cheap. With Gronk’s injury history and Brady’s love of the 2 TE set- would be a huge mistake to get rid of Howard.

I’m not ready to go SB bound yet. But if  they can land say Andrew Thomas in the 1st round- that’s an instant starter at one of the tackle spots on the OL. And this draft will be packed with great athletes at the RB and WR position that should be available in the 2nd - 5th rounds. 

IF they could pull off say Andrew Thomas in the 1st, Jonathan Taylor or D’Andre Swift in the 2nd, and a slot WR like KJ Hamler in the 3rd or 4th rd - they’d become the clear team to beat in the NFC. It would be an offense that is impossible to stop.

[ELA]

I’ll wait to see who they draft and if they keep OJ Howard. OJ Howard is still on his rookie deal so he’s cheap. With Gronk’s injury history and Brady’s love of the 2 TE set- would be a huge mistake to get rid of Howard.

I’m not ready to go SB bound yet. But if  they can land say Andrew Thomas in the 1st round- that’s an instant starter at one of the tackle spots on the OL. And this draft will be packed with great athletes at the RB and WR position that should be available in the 2nd - 5th rounds.

IF they could pull off say Andrew Thomas in the 1st, Jonathan Taylor or D’Andre Swift in the 2nd, and a slot WR like KJ Hamler in the 3rd or 4th rd - they’d become the clear team to beat in the NFC. It would be an offense that is impossible to stop.

Same wavelength, but I have Thomas and Taylor off the board when they come up, but getting Mekhi Becton and JK Dobbins instead

[OrangeAfroMan]

Ehhh, guys?  TB allowed the 4th-most points in the league last year.  There are 2 sides of the ball, lol.

[Mdot21]

Ehhh, guys?  TB allowed the 4th-most points in the league last year.  There are 2 sides of the ball, lol.

In all the advanced adjusted defensive stats Tampa was among the elite defenses in the league. 

You do realize that Famous Jameis threw 30 interceptions, 7 of which were pick 6’s- (which gets counted in standard points allowed stat but shouldn’t imo) and lost 6 fumbles, right? Jameis’ 36 turnovers were far and away the most in the NFL, and 12 more than the next closest QB. And a staggering 27 more turnovers than Tom Brady.

Tampa’s defense inherited the worst starting field position in the entire NFL and had a QB that turned the ball over like his life depended on it. They will not have that problem in 2020. That defense is about to get a lot better just because of the turnovers by its offense being cut down dramatically. 

[ELA]

Yeah, Bucs ranked 5th in defensive efficiency, #1 against the run.

[OrangeAfroMan]

You tend to make a good point (your last paragraph), but sully it with hyperbole (your first sentence).  There was nothing "elite" about TB's defense last year.  They were good/not great vs the run.  
And my point remains - there's some silly talk regarding the Bucs all of a sudden.  Got Brady.  Great.  Gronk, too.  Cool.  
There are still 2 sides of the ball.  

[Mdot21]

You tend to make a good point (your last paragraph), but sully it with hyperbole (your first sentence).  There was nothing "elite" about TB's defense last year.  They were good/not great vs the run. 
And my point remains - there's some silly talk regarding the Bucs all of a sudden.  Got Brady.  Great.  Gronk, too.  Cool. 
There are still 2 sides of the ball. 

I don’t think you know what the word hyperbole means. 

What I stated was merely a fact. I said that Tampa was among the elite in the advanced adjusted defensive stats. As ELA pointed out, #5 in defensive efficiency and #1 against the run.

[MarqHusker]

I don't remember,did he do something blindingly ignorant ......off the field.Like Manzeil,Winston or Roethlisberger?

I wasn't around Indy then but he has a reputation for being a bit off, short fuse.  He did have an underage party w his kids when he supplied alcohol , a classic don't you know who I am scenario ensued.

[Mdot21]

Oh yeah, the Tampa defense was also 5th in turnovers created and tied for 6th in the NFL in sacks.

[MarqHusker]

Imagine these guys now, having offseason jobs.  Bryce Harper pitching socks at JC Penney.  Aaron Rodgers helping you at Ace Hardware....

That's one of my favorite things when reading old biographies of players. Their old gigs, selling shoes, driving delivery trucks.  My favorite is when a young wet behind the ears Rogers Hornsby was told by his manager he should be sent back to the farm (meaning the minors), thats what Hornsby did.  He went to work at a farm in the off-season and got real big and strong.  He may have been known to be dim and cantankerous, but makes total sense.

[OrangeAfroMan]