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MaximumSam

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Re: 2020 MLB Thread
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2020, 09:18:35 PM »
Sonny Gray was throwing a 1 hit shutout and got taken out with two outs in the 7th up 9-0. Now it's 9-5
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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2020, 09:27:05 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 29, 2020, 09:07:10 PM
Zac Plesac, the Indians #6 starter, pitched 8 shutout innings, 11 Ks, no walks, but no run support.  Pen comes in and gives up 3 in the 9th.
All of the talking heads have been wrong about pitcher usage.  They thought managers would baby their starters, giving them 3-4 innings and eventually growing it from there.  But plenty of starters have gone 8+ IP in their first starts, which is great.
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Re: 2020 MLB Thread
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2020, 09:37:41 PM »
Yeah, I miss the chess match of guys facing off for a third time.  Just another thing analytics have ruined from a viewership standpoint

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2020, 11:17:48 PM »
Baseball is most married to its past, which damns it in this way.  MLB could combat the fact that the best method to win games seems to vary greatly from the best game to watch, but they won't.  Baseball evolves slowly, because of its marriage to the past.  
The 3-batter minimum for relievers is great, but minor.

Analytics has revealed some effective strategies that are also boring.  This doesn't have to damage the sport, but it has and probably will, going forward.
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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2020, 11:19:29 PM »
IMO, baseball was better before they started trying to bring it into touch with modern times.  All things have gone downhill since the DH was introduced.
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« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2020, 11:29:00 PM »
I blame the rampant PED usage in the 90s.  
Lineups used to have a formula:
leadoff - fast guy
2nd - low power/good contact guy
3rd - best hitter
4th - power guy
5th - RBI guy
6th, 7th - try to get a hit
8th - worse fast guy
9th - pitcher, try to bunt the worse fast guy over

PEDs changed that....every spot in the lineup was a power guy.  You had leadoff and 8th hitters hitting 25 HRs in a season.  And it produced data that told us that method of hitting was statistically the most effective to winning games.  The data also told us that traditional ideas like intentional walks and sacrifice bunts were bad strategy, so their loss was no loss at all.  

We've learned that it doesn't matter how fast a guy is if he can't get on base.  That stringing together 3 hits to score a run is less likely than getting a guy on (hit or walk) and smashing a HR is.  Pitcher's arms fall off after 100 pitches.  

And the damn platoon advantage inherent to the sport.  
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« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2020, 11:45:10 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 29, 2020, 07:05:46 PM
First time watching a game at Texas' new park on TV.  Quite a bland look on the interior.  I get it had to be inside, but man the old park looked so much cooler

Can't tell yet wo fan reaction but they have a very thoughtful seating bowl design which mercifully cuts down on the upper decks being in the heavens the way most post Camden parks have been designed to accommodate suites and club levels. I read a rather comprehensive piece on that somewhere.   Fans will be much closer to home plate.    It certainly wasn't designed from the outside -in so it doesn't impress from a styling standpoint. 
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« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2020, 01:17:38 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: July 30, 2020, 01:25:34 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 30, 2020, 01:17:38 PM
Phillies halt all operations in their stadium

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29564864/phllies-halt-activity-stadium-positive-tests-coronavirus
Maybe we were wrong all along.  Maybe the source is Phillies stadium
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« Reply #65 on: July 30, 2020, 05:51:30 PM »
I didn't even know their stadium was set up to do operations...

Is that elective or non-elective? 
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« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2020, 11:05:44 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 30, 2020, 01:25:34 PM
Maybe we were wrong all along.  Maybe the source is Phillies stadium
Or just the guy who calls it home:
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« Reply #67 on: July 31, 2020, 10:25:22 AM »
Multiple Cardinals test positive, game today against Brewers cancelled
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« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2020, 12:25:59 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 29, 2020, 09:07:10 PM
Zac Plesac, the Indians #6 starter, pitched 8 shutout innings, 11 Ks, no walks, but no run support.  Pen comes in and gives up 3 in the 9th.
Indians pitchers have been insane.  Mariners have the worst K/BB rate in the AL at 1.56, the Orioles have the 2nd BEST at 3.20.  So 14 of the 15 teams are in that range.  Then Indians lead at 10.75!

Only 4 teams even have a K/9 rate of 10.75 or higher.
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Re: 2020 MLB Thread
« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2020, 09:45:49 AM »
Reds and Tigers scheduled for a seven inning double header today.
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