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Topic: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread

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iahawk15

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2020, 04:04:38 PM »
How was Doyle not sacked after the rhabdo fiasco?
I believe the official answer was that they had done that exact workout dozens of times without incident; they had just never done as the first workout back from break. The result was that the workout was retired.

As we know, Doyle wasn't fired. He wasn't suspended. What you may not know is that Kirk created a new award that year, Assistant Coach of the Year, and gave it to Doyle.

Depending on how you look at it, that move could have been to show his support for Doyle, or it could have been a figurative middle finger to the media calling for his Doyle's head.

I've got a feeling Kirk will be a little less stubborn this time around.
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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2020, 09:38:50 AM »
I would say he's arguably the least respected journalist covering Iowa Football. It's a neck-and-neck race between him and Pat Harty.
I've worked with him before in a now disbanded website I used to moderate. The articles he wrote for us always had the most traffic and he does get first hand information regularly. Now, I don't follow his recruiting stuff because I don't pay attention to that but many do. Everyone I have talked to...well almost everyone...has echoed my comment. Maybe highly respected was the wrong term but he definitely has a large following. 

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2020, 09:51:31 AM »
This strikes me as a correlation/causation question, perhaps less to say it's not about race, but it might not be about the Iowa football culture when it comes to race.

IC is 80 percent white. The school is 3.3 percent black. The state is 90 percent white. That means you have young people coming from farther away, moving from situations where they see a lot of people who look like them to situations where they see almost none outside the football building. In that case, I'm not so surprised at that attrition. (I wouldn't be surprised if UW looked similar in terms of attrition makeup)
So yeah, it is but it isn't or it could be :smiley_confused1:.

I think you are correct in the demographics and there is probably a perception is reality scenario as well. This may be something the committee will review. Figure out how to make some kid from FL fit in and not feel like such an outsider while away from the field. Still, a safe place should be the weight room and if those perceptions are a reality, then the change needs to start there. Still would have to balance the treatment towards equal and hopefully doesn't become special treatment. I think that would have just as much of a negative effect if they go to far out of their way to make the positive changes and it almost comes off as condescending or pity. 

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2020, 10:42:25 AM »
I reeeeally don't think this is an issue specific to Iowa.  I'm sure that dirt can be dug up for the other 130-ish FBS teams without having to dig too deeply.  

This seemed to have started when KF was interviewed by Scott Van Pelt regarding the George Floyd incident, and afterwards several former players spoke out about how things weren't as hunky-dory as most folks not immediately connected to the program thought it would be.

This is in all likelihood just the tip of the iceberg.  More players from more schools are probably going to speak out in the coming weeks.

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2020, 11:04:08 AM »
I reeeeally don't think this is an issue specific to Iowa.  I'm sure that dirt can be dug up for the other 130-ish FBS teams without having to dig too deeply. 

This seemed to have started when KF was interviewed by Scott Van Pelt regarding the George Floyd incident, and afterwards several former players spoke out about how things weren't as hunky-dory as most folks not immediately connected to the program thought it would be.

This is in all likelihood just the tip of the iceberg.  More players from more schools are probably going to speak out in the coming weeks.
Fully agree and in one of James Daniels' tweets said that he hoped this opened the door for others across the nation. I also think KF's plan of the committee looking at the entire culture and not just athletics will spread throughout the nation. Maybe even to the point that some conferences will require something similar. 

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2020, 11:39:08 AM »
Fully agree and in one of James Daniels' tweets said that he hoped this opened the door for others across the nation. I also think KF's plan of the committee looking at the entire culture and not just athletics will spread throughout the nation. Maybe even to the point that some conferences will require something similar.
You're hard-pressed to find a program that emphasizes accountability and integrity more than Iowa.  These accusations are eye-opening for sure, but I also don't think KF is going to sit and watch.  He'll do whatever he can to make everyone's experience better.

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2020, 11:35:59 PM »


Next year's OL is yet to be known, but I'm not entirely sure Cronk's addition changes the fact that everything hinges on [Mark] Kallenberger. He's still projected at LT in 2021, IMO, and if he can handle RT this year the staff needs to give him those reps.
Jack Kallenberger, Mark Kallenberger's brother has left the program amid allegations of bullying by coaches about his purported lack of intelligence. https://247sports.com/college/iowa/Article/Jack-Kallenberger-Iowa-Football-Seth-Wallace-Chris-Doyle-Kirk-Ferentz--147953928/ Kallenberger is not making allegations of racial profiling in that he is white.

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2020, 12:19:39 PM »
lack of intelligence???

this is the O-line room

I guess they are mostly referred to as the Big Uglies, not the Big Dumbies
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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2020, 08:03:15 PM »
Iowa football coach Kirk Ferentz admits he had a "blind spot" in not spotting problems that made black players feel mistreated or uncomfortable in his program, but he expects things to change moving forward.

Ferentz on Friday said Iowa's program is on a better path following several emotion-charged team meetings, the formation of an advocacy group including 11 former Iowa players and more openness regarding communication within the program and player expression outside of it.


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29304234/iowa-kirk-ferentz-admits-blind-spot-black-players-issues-vows-improve-environment
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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2020, 10:06:40 AM »
So Purdue just picked up a 4* transfer DB from Iowa, DJ Johnson. Originally from Indianapolis, so that does make some sense.

He's transferring as a RS Soph, so absent any waiver, he'd have to sit a year and then would have 2 years eligibility remaining. But some think that either due to COVID or due to the issues at Iowa (he was outspoken about them on Twitter) he'll be granted a waiver and have immediate eligibility. 

So for the Iowa folks who might actually know something about this kid, what is Purdue getting?


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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2020, 10:25:34 AM »
So Purdue just picked up a 4* transfer DB from Iowa, DJ Johnson. Originally from Indianapolis, so that does make some sense.

He's transferring as a RS Soph, so absent any waiver, he'd have to sit a year and then would have 2 years eligibility remaining. But some think that either due to COVID or due to the issues at Iowa (he was outspoken about them on Twitter) he'll be granted a waiver and have immediate eligibility.

So for the Iowa folks who might actually know something about this kid, what is Purdue getting?


Got some time as Iowa's main nickel/dime back last year. I don't think he was in contention for a starting CB spot this year. Solid depth addition for now, starting potential down the road.


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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2020, 09:40:24 AM »
news conference today any idea what it is about?

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Re: 2020 Iowa Offseason Thread
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2020, 11:56:54 AM »
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