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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #350 on: May 07, 2020, 01:56:23 PM »
ELA, where do you find the havoc rate numbers?

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #351 on: May 07, 2020, 02:59:22 PM »
Even with a helmet bump, the Huskers were unable to outrank the Hoosiers.
With out Frost they may be unable outplay them moving forward
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #352 on: May 07, 2020, 03:03:20 PM »
Some interesting teams have yet to be called (duh), like UNC and Tennessee.  I think UNC should be pretty good, not so high on the Vols.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #353 on: May 07, 2020, 03:45:35 PM »
ELA, where do you find the havoc rate numbers?

Connolly still posts selective data on his Twitter account, but I'm at his mercy there.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #354 on: May 07, 2020, 03:54:39 PM »

#36 California Golden Bears
#4 in Pac 12
We move from a team that can’t seem to figure out defense, to a team that can’t seem to figure out anything but.  The defense wasn’t quite the 2018 elite version, but it was still very good.  While Evan Weaver, who led the nation in tackles, while setting a school record, is now a member of the Arizona Cardinals, two of his fellow All-Pac 12 linemen return.  Then Justin Wilcox received good new after good news.  Cornerback Camryn Bynum, who seemed primed to jump to the NFL, leaving the Bears without 3 NFL defensive backs, including both corners, decided to return to Berkeley for his senior year.  Then, facing the prospect of having to replace his entire defensive line, the NCAA granted sixth years of eligibility to not one, but two linemen, including all-conference performer Zeandae Johnson.  Just like that, Cal’s run defense, third best in the Pac 12 at 3.6 ypc allowed, including holding Stanford and UCLA to a combined 2.0 ypc in back to back wins to end the regular season, looks like a strength again.  For this team to take the next step, whatever that might be, the offense has to be at least competent.  What that next step is, who knows?  While Washington and Washington State are taking a step back, Stanford remains down, and Oregon has to replace the #6 pick in the NFL Draft at quarterback, asking them to win the division and play for a conference title seems like a tall ask.  This is a school that hasn’t had a winning conference record since 2009, hasn’t finished ranked in the AP Poll since 2006, and hasn’t gone to a Rose Bowl since 1958.  If they can get to 9-3, and be relevant in the Pac 12 North into November, that’s huge.  And really, there’s no excuse for the offense not to be at least decent, returning 9 starters; including two starters with extensive starting experience, all six players who finished with at least 15 rushing yards, all 14 players who caught a pass, and 4 of 5 starting offensive linemen.  The Bears return 93% of their offensive production, most in the FBS.  The question is whether that translates to production, and there are reasons for optimism.  Cal won 4 of their final 5 games, averaging 27.4 ppg, after a 4-4 start, where they averaged just 17.4.  While Devon Modster was a very serviceable backup, and was probably a better runner, the drop off in the passing game in the games where Chase Garbers either didn’t play at all, or left injured was huge.  In those 6 games, the Bears averaged roughly 130 fewer passing yards, 11.3 fewer ppg, and went 1-5, as opposed to 7-0 with Garbers.  The decision on any staff changes to make offensively was made easier by offensive coordinator Beau Baldwin being hired away as the head coach at Cal Poly, trying to reignite the success he had as head coach at FCS Eastern Washington, having five top 5 finishes from 2010-2016, including a national title.  That allowed Wilcox to make a change, without having to fire someone.  That someone new is Bill Musgrave, who has extensive coordinating experience in his 24 year coaching career, but all of that time, except a two year stint at Virginia in 2001 and 2002, was in the NFL.  Most recently as offensive coordinator with the Broncos from 2017-2018.  For all the returning faces though you still have to remember that this offense still finished dead last in the Pac 12 in every major offensive category, except rushing offense, ranking outside the top 100 in the FBS in the same categories.  Challenging Oregon depends on Garbers being an All-Conference type quarterback.


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QBChase Garbers, Junior
RBChristopher Brown Jr., Junior
TJake Curhan, Senior
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LBKuony Deng, Senior
CBCamryn Bynum, Senior


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #355 on: May 07, 2020, 04:01:36 PM »
Even with a helmet bump, the Huskers were unable to outrank the Hoosiers.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #356 on: May 07, 2020, 06:49:56 PM »
ELA Top 35 Demographics
30 P5
8 Sec: 4 East/4 West
7 Big Ten: 4 East/3 West
6 Big Xii
5 Acc: 2 Atlantic/3 Coastal
3 Pac 12: 1 North/2 South
1 P5 Independent
5 G5 (FL, ID, OH, TN and NC)
3 Aac: 2 East/1 West
1 Mwc: 1 Mountain/0 West
1 Sunbelt: 1 East/0 West

By State:
3 teams: Texas
2 teams: Alabama, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, N Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Virginia
Down to their final at bat: California, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Oregon, S Carolina, Utah and Wisconsin.

Idaho, Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin remain unblemished.

None of the 4+ team states have been entirely eliminated. 
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1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #357 on: May 07, 2020, 06:51:09 PM »
15 yard penalty - hitting below the belt
In fairness the Vols only beat you out by getting a helmet bump and an SEC bump, simultaneously. 
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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #358 on: May 07, 2020, 07:17:20 PM »
Is Kentucky still out?  Huh.  Must be.  Nice coaching job there I will say, and I won't brook argument.

The Vols should drop soon.  In the west, you have the usual, I'm far from convinced about A&M.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #359 on: May 07, 2020, 09:44:06 PM »
#38 Navy Midshipmen
#4 in American
I always include the “service academies are impossible to predict” caveat, because they always lean senior-heavy, and their year to year success is seemingly largely based on how a singular class pans out.  See last year when I thought Army was an upset of Michigan away from playing in a New Years Six bowl, while Navy, coming off a 3-10 season (the program’s worst since 2002), while returning the fifth least production in the entire FBS, was destined for another long year.  Instead, Army went 5-8, with just 3 FBS wins (Rice, UTSA, Massachusetts), while Navy went 11-2, beat Kansas State in the Liberty Bowl, and finished ranked #20, their second highest finish since 1963.  So, I’m back to being bullish on the Midshipmen this year, but who knows.  What I do know is that the Navy defense returns 8 starters, as indirectly mentioned, almost unheard of for the service academies.  They will take a bit of a hit if LB/S hybrid Jake Springer, an honorable mention all-conference performer last year, doesn’t return.  He put his name in the transfer portal in mid-March, but hasn’t yet landed anywhere.  If he returns, to pair with Diego Fagot, Navy has the top linebacker duo in the American.  Fagot, on his own is a difference maker, one of just three underclassmen to earn first all-conference defensive honors a year ago, and the only non-senior linebacker to do so.  It’s not hyperbole to say he is on pace to become the best defensive player to play at the academy since Ron Beagle and Bob Reifsnyder in the 50s, both of whom are in the College Football Hall of Fame.  In the 60 years since Reifsnyder graduated, Navy has produced exactly one All-American on the defensive side of the ball, safety Chet Moeller, and exactly two NFL Draft picks, in the 14th and 7th rounds respectively.  Navy’s overall defensive stats are always going to look good, leading the AAC, #13 nationally, due to their offensive style.  But even at a per play basis, the Midshipmen ranked 3rd in the conference, despite breaking in the fifth youngest defense in the FBS.  They were bolstered by the return of first year defensive coordinator Brian Newberry, who turned down multiple Power Five offers, including publicly from Mike Leach at Mississippi State.  Pay change aside, your defense is going to look a lot better when you pair it with an offense running a triple option, as opposed to an air raid.  The offense also looks to be in solid shape...with one glaring omission, quarterback Malcolm Perry, last year’s AAC Player of the Year.  Every back who saw significant carries last year, except one is back, led by dive expert Jamale Carothers.  Carothers is money in short yardage situations.  On 111 carries, he was only stopped behind the line twice, the ideal threat to collapse defenses in the triple option.  If Nelson Smith can recapture his 2019 form he showed as a sophomore, before a disappointing junior season, with some mild injury concerns, the Midshipmen should be more than set with their backfield, if they get the quarterback position set.  Macolm Perry is off to the NFL, a rare talent at Navy, opening a battle between sophomore Perry Olsen and senior Dalen Morris.  Olsen probably has the edge, with three remaining years of eligibility, and saw action in nine games last year.  The problem is that he was horrible in that limited action, completing just 2 of 8 passes, and averaging just 2.4 ypc on 34 rushes.


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FBJamale Carothers, Junior
FBNelson Smith, Senior
TBilly Honaker, Senior
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LBDiego Fagot, Junior
SKevin Brennan, Junior
SEvan Fochtman, Senior


Navy has not been shy about throwing in older QBs, and their recent history has been kinda interesting.

Reynolds was a tank of a player four four years and a so-so passer. He was replaced first by Tago Smith, who got hurt in the next year's opener, giving way for Will Worth to deliver possibly the best passing season of any modern triple QB (and maybe a case for the best?). They tried to make the burley Zach Abey happen, but he was at times up and down and pretty injury prone. He got either hurt or benched late in that season for slotback Malcolm Perry. Perry started the final three games and then the first five of the next, but things were going bad so he got moved back to RB (Abey and Garret Lewis spit time, which was weird and bad). Then Perry got the job and they figured out how to run an offense around him and it was stupendous. 

It's been a weird ride. 

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« Reply #360 on: May 08, 2020, 10:57:31 AM »

#35 Kansas State Wildcats
#6 in Big XII
I’m still skeptical of whether anybody can win at Kansas State other than Bill Snyder.  Yes, Chris Klieman had a solid first season, going 8-5, with a Liberty Bowl loss, coming off a 5-7 year in Bill Snyder’s final season.  But remember Ron Prince inherited a program coming off back to back 4-7 and 5-6 seasons, and went 7-5 with a Texas Bowl loss in his first year.  I do think Klieman is a hell of a coach, which is sort of why I was surprised this was the job he took.  The Wildcats were able to scrape together an 8 win campaign last year thanks to an opportunistic defense, which finished 2nd in the Big XII in scoring defense, despite finishing 8th in ypp allowed, including dead last against the run.  Their secondary was very good, all things considered.  The front seven couldn’t stop the run, and didn’t really get after the quarterback much, tallying just 1.69 sacks per game, second lowest in the conference.  But even with all that, and an early November season ending injury to their best player in the back four, cornerback A.J. Parker, the secondary held their own.  They were third in the Big XII in pass defense efficiency, being one of only two teams in the conference to hold their opponents below 60% completions, and allowing just 12 passing touchdowns, easily the fewest in the conference.  But why the scoring numbers were so good is a little bit of a mystery.  The normal places you look to find those discrepancies, don’t really show anything.  The Wildcats surrendered scores on 97% of red zone trips, worst in the nation and had a negative turnover differential.  They did stop their opponents on third down 71.5% of the time, second best nationally.  The job is now up to new defensive coordinator Joe Klanderman, who earned it after the job he did with the secondary last year.  Granted Kansas State was in a bit of a bind, as far as external searches go, when Scottie Hazelton was hired away by Michigan State, after just one year, on February 27.  Very late in the game anytime, and with COVID shutting everything down two weeks later, nearly impossible to do a full search.  But even under normal circumstances, Klanderman could have wound up getting the promotion.  What to expect from the offense, nobody knows.  Kansas State has ranked in the bottom 20 of the FBS in terms of pass play percentage in each of the past four seasons, but personnel is going to dictate that is going to need to flip this year.  The Wildcats graduated their entire starting offensive line, and their top two running backs.  What they do have is a senior quarterback in Skylar Thompson, a dual threat veteran, who ran for 565 yards a year ago, including 11 rushing touchdowns, fourth most in the Big XII overall, second among quarterbacks.  While his sub 60% completion percentage isn’t great, when he misses, it doesn’t go to the other team.  He had the second lowest interception percentage in the conference.  He’s got the making of what could be an outstanding receiver group thanks to three true sophomores.  Malik Knowles and Phillip Brooks were first and second on the team last year in receptions, and the electric Joshua Youngblood should see himself more involved in the passing game after being as big a special teams weapon as existed in the country last year, being the only player in the nation with 3 kick return touchdowns.  They also bring back all-conference kicker Blake Lynch, who was perfect on PATs last year, and is 33-35 on field goals inside of 50 yards over his career.  The two of them were the primary reason Wildcats’ special teams ranked #8 nationally in SP+.


KEY PLAYERS
QBSkylar Thompson, Senior
WRMalik Knowles, Sophomore
KBlake Lynch, Senior
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DEWyatt Hubert, Junior
LBElijah Sullivan, Senior
CBA.J. Parker, Senior


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« Reply #361 on: May 09, 2020, 02:02:06 PM »

#34 Virginia Cavaliers
#5 in ACC
The Bronco Mendenhall hire seemed curious at the time, but the program stuck with him, and the gradual build paid off...sort of.  He went from 2-10 in Year 1, to 6 wins and the program’s first bowl in six years in Year 2, to 8 wins in Year 3, to their first ever ACC Championship, and first BCS/New Years Six Bowl since 1990 last year.  All of that said, the Cavs still lost 5 games, and finished unranked.  In fairness, none of the losses occurred in Charlottesville, with three coming against Top 10 teams.  But the flip side is that the best win was?  A 39-30 home win over a 5 loss Virginia Tech team thanks to two scores, 22 seconds apart, in the final two minutes?  The offense should shift from a pass reliant offense, to more run heavy, with the graduation of quarterback Bryce Perkins, and his top two receivers.  That starts up front, where Mendenhall went young on the offensive line, with the hopeful payoff coming in 2020, with not only the entire starting five returning, but the entire two deep.  The middle of that line, led by Olusegun Oluwatimi could form one of the best run blocking cores in the conference, after already being a solid run blocking unit last year, despite the lousy run numbers.  They really started to come together late in the year, and even though the Cavs finished the year against Virginia Tech, Clemson, and Florida, they averaged 4.6 ypc against those opponents, compared to 3.4 ypc against the prior (lesser) opponents.  The problem was the lack of ball carriers.  Quarterback Bryce Perkins had nearly twice as many carries and twice as many yards as any back did.  The bulk of the carries that Perkins didn’t take, went to Wayne Taulapapa, who wasn’t overly efficient, but did have a nose for the end zone.  His 12 touchdowns on just 116 carries was the second fewest carries for any player with 12 or more touchdowns.  They also brought in Ronnie Walker, who was a highly touted in state prospect who instead went to Indiana, but has now transferred back home.  Sophomore quarterback Brennan Armstrong, who was the #2 last year, was the presumptive starter at quarterback, but just last week they added Mississippi State transfer Keytaon Thompson, with immediate eligibility.  He is a major dual threat talent, who was a poor fit for Mike Leach’s offense, but fits in really nicely with what Virginia did last year with Perkins.  Particularly considering that aside from Terrell Jana, the receivers are a major question mark, with Joe Reed and Hasise Dubois, and their combined 152 receptions, gone.  As solid as the offensive line appears to be, the defensive trenches look to be problematic on the edges.  Jowon Briggs was outstanding at nose tackle as a freshman.  He probably should have earned at least honorable mention all-conference honors last year, and should be a lock last year.  Behind them though, the back eight return nearly in tact, with the one notable exception of Jordan Mack, who led the team in sacks.  The linebacker group, even without him, looks to still be very strong.  The secondary hinges on how much of their struggles last year were injury and youth related.  Starting cornerback Darrius Bratton and safety Brenton Nelson both return after suffering season ending injuries last year, and they return to join the starting four that finished the year.  The problem is that was a group that allowed 7.9 ypa on the season, and got worse as the season progressed, allowing over 10 ypa over those final three games.  The issue was big plays, allowing an obscene 16.3 yards per completion over that stretch, which if stretched out would have been the third worst mark in the last five years.


KEY PLAYERS
WRTerrell Jana, Senior
COlusegun Oluwatimi, Junior
KBrian Delaney, Senior
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LBCharles Snowden, Senior
LBZane Zandier, Senior
SJoey Blount, Senior



#33 Tennessee Volunteers
#8 in SEC
Two weeks into the 2019 season, Jeremy Pruitt looked destined to be the next former Tennessee head coach.  From that point on, the Vols didn’t lose another game to a team ranked outside the final Top 8 of the AP Poll.  Problem is, in the SEC, when Alabama is your crossover, that is still three more losses.  Still, Tennessee fans have reasons to be cautiously optimistic headed into 2020, with plenty of steps left to take before Pruitt has won this bunch (used to winning much more than Gators Bowls) over.  This program hasn’t finished ranked in the top 20 since 2007 (1974-1985 was the previous longest drought), hasn’t lost fewer that 4 games since 2004 (1975-1982 being their previous longest stretch), and hasn’t won an SEC title since their 1998 National Championship season (1969-1985 being their previous longest stretch).  The improvement on offense likely begins and ends with the offensive line.  The job Will Friend has done over the past two years can’t be understated.  He inherited a dearth of talent in when hired from Colorado State in 2018, going from what was, by FootballOutsiders metrics, one of the worst lines in the entire FBS, to decent last year, to maybe as good as any in the SEC, if not country, this year.  They have also been the beneficiary of good fortune (with perhaps more to come), with Trey Smith, who was a likely Day 2 draft pick, deciding to return for his senior year, where he projects to be a preseason First Team All-American, the #2 OG on Mel Kiper’s 2021 draft board.  Smith had his sophomore season derailed by blood clots in his lungs, so the fact he is not only still in Knoxville, but arguably the best guard in the nation is a heartwarming development.  Then, if former 5* OT Cade Mays has his transfer appeal approved, and Tennessee signed two 5* players in their 2019 class (2 of the 6 highest rated offensive linemen), they will pair with Smith to give Tennessee as good a left side of the line as exists in football.  Senior quarterback Jarrett Guarantano returns, but always seems about to surrender the starting job.  The latest challenger is incoming freshman Harrison Bailey, Tennessee’s highest rated quarterback recruit since 2005.  His depleted receiver corps won’t help, but he does for the first time in his career have a running game to lean on with the 1-2 punch of Ty Chandler and Eric Gray.  Tennessee hasn’t ranked higher than 13th in the SEC in ypc during the past three years.  The defense is short on household names, but has more depth than they’ve had in a long time.  The one likely breakout star is sophomore Henry To’o To’o, who was the highest rated defensive player in Tennessee’s 2019 class, and more than lived up to that billing as a true freshman, finishing second on the team in tackles.  The Vols have plenty of steps to take to re-establish themselves, and the road isn’t easy.  Florida looks to have rebounded from their post-Meyer years, Georgia is currently in their best run since the early 80s, and Alabama doesn’t appear to be going anywhere.  And that is the problem.  Vols went 5-3 in the SEC, with the three losses coming to those three schools.  Those three opponents are going to continue to be on the schedule and Tennessee currently has a 13 game losing streak to Alabama (longest in series history), they’ve lost 13 of 14 from Florida, and 8 of 10 from Georgia.  Until they figure out a way past the Bulldog/Gator/Crimson Tide roadblock, it’s hard to see them competing for more than third in the division.


KEY PLAYERS
QBJarrett Guarantano, Senior
GTrey Smith, Senior
KBrent Cimaglia, Senior
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DEMatthew Butler, Senior
LBHenry To'o To'o, Sophomore
SShawn Shamburger, Senior


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #362 on: May 09, 2020, 04:19:21 PM »
Tennessee has 2 SEC teams, one of which is a "helmet," yet a G5 program will be the top team in the state. Ouch. 
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1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #363 on: May 09, 2020, 04:29:54 PM »
For the Vols to be "nearly ranked" is pretty good for them for reasons noted.  I think they play at Oklahoma this year.

 

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