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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #322 on: April 30, 2020, 02:43:25 PM »
#44 Washington State Cougars
#6 in Pac 12
The question is just how far from Leach they strayed in hiring 41 year old Nick Rolovich from Hawaii.  Off the field, Rolovich has his own quirks.  He stood out for bringing a cast of characters with him to conference media days, including celebrity impersonators, such as Britney Spears and Elvis; and a tarot card reader.  More relevantly, Rolovich is also an offensive minded coach, although after playing for and coaching under June Jones, he is from the Run and Shoot coaching tree, rather than the Air Raid.  The differences are slight, aside from the way in which the quarterback makes his reads, and the fact that the run and shoot relies more on crossing routes.  But aside from that minutiae, there isn’t a huge difference. 



Ranking WSU as high as #44 gives to much assumption to whether Rolovich is ready for a bigger job. Though he won at Hawaii, they were sloppy teams, and I'm not sure he's ready for prime time. Despite my negative view, the good news is that the roster, experienced with the pass-first strategy, will be on the same page with what Rolovich wants. I'd drop WSU down into the 60s and going 6-6.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #323 on: May 01, 2020, 09:56:54 AM »
ELA wrote:"The Mike Leach-Washington State divorce, which seemed years in the making, finally took place after last offseason."
Was there bad blood?I just viewed Wazzou as a stepping stone position.I wrote on the old board that I was hoping he'd land in C-Bus when J.T. was shown the door.Tressel and he were canned around the same time.And of course the Urban situation developed but would have been interesting Plan "B" to have the Pirate on the sidelines.Great write ups BTW
The AD that hired him who he liked left for Nebraska. He'd been looking around for a while. 

Also, man OSU fans would've hated Leach. He's not cut for that sort of job. 

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #324 on: May 01, 2020, 10:10:04 AM »
My thoughts too. Would've made a more responsible hire at Ole Miss and Miss St when they were looking for coaches a few months ago. Alas, Napier wasn't the splashier, headline grabbing name that Kiffin and Leach are.

Out of curiosity, what makes Napier more responsible? (I think he turned down Miss State and at least had Ole Miss interest)

He's been an HC two years, taking over for a mostly successful head coach and pushing the bar up a bit higher. He's been an OC twice. Once his departure opened the door for a hire that launched a dynasty. The other time was a one-year stint, where the offense ranked 35th in SP+, and then his HC got fired, though they tired to keep him.

In terms of raw football, both Kiffin and Leach have proven far more. I guess you could say it's more responsible because he has less record as a crazy person person. But for maybe less chance of an off-field implosion, he's probably got a notably larger chance of an on-field implosion.

(The other issue for each program is that where they want to be is so far over where their natural state is. So it would take work to get either to Dan Mullen level, and neither would be happy there. Maybe Hugh Freeze on-field peak would suffice, maybe not)

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #325 on: May 01, 2020, 10:18:15 AM »
Pitt is in a terrible situation.  Their stadium is off campus doesn't come close to selling out on a typical game.  Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, and Notre Dame plunder their backyard, and they aren't "helmet" enough to get recruits from around the country.  All things considered, I think Narduzzi is doing a pretty decent job there.

And I can't believe Kenny Pickett is still there...
I'd thought Pitt was worse than that last year. 

The weird thing about Pitt is the job isn't easy, but it's always just mostly OK. Since 1997, every coach has won between half and 57.5 percent of their games. Before that they had the bad second Majors run, Mike Gottfried who peaked at 8-4. Fazio went 9-3 and 8-4 to top his four years. So you have to go back to Sherrill and Majors for when that job was really good. 

They've not been worst than 5-7 since 1998, but in that run have been better than 8-4 only three times (two 9-4s and a 10-3, twice in the hollowed out Big East). 

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #326 on: May 01, 2020, 05:11:52 PM »

#43 Temple Owls
#5 in American
I don’t think any Temple fans want to go to the old days, granted the new days, of the NFL and Power 5 schools poaching your coaches and your talent can’t be fun either.  Rod Carey enters his second year at the school (which in some ways makes him a grizzled vet), and was primed for a big 2020, until the NFL and the Power Five came calling.  Matt Hennessy and Harrison Hand both left early for the NFL Draft, going in the 3rd and 5th round respectively.  Then, more harmful, defensive end Quincy Roche, the 2019 AAC Defensive Player of the Year, took a grad transfer to Miami, thus removing the best players from each line a year before it was anticipated.  If the offensive line can absorb the blow of Hennessy’s departure, it should rebound from a very disappointing 2019.  Anthony Russo returns under center for his fifth season on campus, and should ease into the #2 slot in the all-time passing marks at Temple.  Accuracy continues to be an issue, and I think at this point it’s time to just live with it.  You like to think a third year starter could get at least above 60%, and maybe not lead the conference in interceptions, but I think he is who he is at this point.  He certainly has plenty of talent to work with.  Temple’s two leading receivers return, including All-Conference Jadan Blue, and they added tight end Darius Pittman from Purdue, who is immediately eligible, along with receiver Nazir Burnett from Georgia Tech, whose appeal is still pending.  The running game could be strong if they can figure out the right balance for Re’Mahn Davis, who showed as a true freshman to be a special talent.  He led the Owls to wins in 4 of the first 5 games he played in (including over Maryland, Georgia Tech and Memphis), while running for 346 yards on 5.8 ypc through the first four.  In the Memphis win he ran 23 times for 72 yards, the week after running 29 times against Georgia Tech.  He never seemed to be the same back after that, averaging 4.4 ypc over the balance of the year, averaging just 14 catches per game.  The defense was largely very good, allowing just 4.9 ypp, second best in the conference, with the fourth best scoring defense.  The issue was when things went bad, they went REALLY bad.  They gave up an average of 25.9 ppg, but only twice surrendered between 17 and 38 points.  They allowed 17 or fewer points seven times; but then allowed 38 or more points 4 times.  The Owls were 8-1 when they allowed under 38 points.  Doesn’t seem like that high of a bar to clear.  Defensively, while Roche may be impossible to replace, the early returns from spring ball is that cornerback Christian Braswell may be in position to take Hand’s place as the top corner.  While Braswell only recorded one interception a year ago, he did lead the team in pass breakups, and in separate interviews, Russo and Carey both said he was the biggest spring standout.  As far has guys with a proven track record, the list is pretty short though.  The six leading tacklers are all gone, resulting in the Owls having the sixth least returning defensive production in the FBS.  Regression is coming, so if the offensive skill players don’t step forward, this pick is going to look ridiculously high.


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QBAnthony Russo, Senior
RBRe'Mahn Davis, Sophomore
WRJadan Blue, Junior
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LBIsaiah Graham-Mobley, Senior
SAmir Tyler, Senior


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #327 on: May 01, 2020, 07:22:40 PM »
After getting all three of their teams into the ELA top 50, Pennsylvania has endured the dreaded double nipple twister with a knee to the groin. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #328 on: May 01, 2020, 07:47:15 PM »
Out of curiosity, what makes Napier more responsible? (I think he turned down Miss State and at least had Ole Miss interest)

He's been an HC two years, taking over for a mostly successful head coach and pushing the bar up a bit higher. He's been an OC twice. Once his departure opened the door for a hire that launched a dynasty. The other time was a one-year stint, where the offense ranked 35th in SP+, and then his HC got fired, though they tired to keep him.

In terms of raw football, both Kiffin and Leach have proven far more. I guess you could say it's more responsible because he has less record as a crazy person person. But for maybe less chance of an off-field implosion, he's probably got a notably larger chance of an on-field implosion.

I guess what I mean by Napier being the more "responsible" hire, is that MSU would've gotten the potential with a lot less risk than usual; IMO, Napier's best days of coaching are ahead of him. Hiring Napier is closer to MSU hiring Mullen back in 2009 than hiring Leach, whose best days of coaching are likely behind him. But the same argument could be made of Joe Moorhead before he abruptly didn't work out. Difference here is that Moorhead was a total outsider. In the case of Napier, MSU/Ole Miss would've hired someone who couldn't be more familiar with SEC territory.

That said, I didn't know Napier already (privately?) turned down MSU.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #329 on: May 01, 2020, 09:01:52 PM »
I guess what I mean by Napier being the more "responsible" hire, is that MSU would've gotten the potential with a lot less risk than usual; IMO, Napier's best days of coaching are ahead of him. Hiring Napier is closer to MSU hiring Mullen back in 2009 than hiring Leach, whose best days of coaching are likely behind him. But the same argument could be made of Joe Moorhead before he abruptly didn't work out. Difference here is that Moorhead was a total outsider. In the case of Napier, MSU/Ole Miss would've hired someone who couldn't be more familiar with SEC territory.

That said, I didn't know Napier already (privately?) turned down MSU.

I think there are some good reasons not to hire Leach, not the least of which is they're betting that going to a historical underdog for the most part with a coach who gets underdogs better than they should be is gonna get them into contender status. 

But the thing is, most young coaches seem to have their best coaching days ahead of them, right up until they don't. Sometimes your guy who only coached two years is Urban, others is Darrell Hazel. I think Leach has a lower ceiling and a higher floor. The downside is that's not what MSU wants, but if you wanted to create a solid stable program, he probably has a better on-field chance, if only because he's done it twice in harsh conditions. 

And I found the quote from Napier. He was asked and said “I think it’s fair to say that we’ve made a decision that we are not a candidate for that job.” And that was before the went ofter Grantham and Judge in a search that was sort of a mess. 

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #330 on: May 02, 2020, 08:45:15 AM »
Miss State needs fan excitement.  Hiring a name coach generates some of that,  at least initially.  They have some fans who show up when their team is decent enough to throw a scare into LSU and Bama and beat Ole Miss.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #331 on: May 02, 2020, 10:30:49 AM »

#42 Wake Forest Demon Deacons
#7 in ACC
For every benched starter who immediately looks to the transfer portal, I don’t blame you, but I do enjoy seeing a Sam Hartman.  Sam Hartman earned the starting quarterback job as a freshman in 2018, before losing his job to Jamie Newman, due to a season ending injury.  Newman took the Deacon offense to the next level last year, perfectly adapted to Wake Forest’s frenetic pace with his arm (4th in the ACC in yards per attempt) and legs (2nd among quarterbacks in rushing yards, while leading the team in rushing touchdowns).  He got Wake Forest off to a 5-0 start, and they spent three weeks ranked, their first time in the AP Poll in 11 years.  It ended with losses in 4 of 5 games, but the promise of greater thing to come.  Except Newman elected instead to transfer to Georgia, allowing Hartman to retake the job.  Hartman did get some action last year, including one start, but played in only four games, to preserve his redshirt.  The running game might be a problem, with the graduation of three All-ACC linemen, although the graduation of starting running back Cade Carney, who was a shell of his junior form, when he had a 1,000 yard campaign.  He saw his ypc drop by a staggering 1.4, but the coaching staff continued to force feed him the ball, rather than true freshman Kenneth Walker III, who was the far more effective ball carrier, but saw a 158 to 98 carry deficit.  Walker finished 18th in the ACC with 579 yards, but his 5.9 ypc were second among those backs, behind only Travis Etienne.  He was the only player to finish in the top 25 of the ACC in rushing with under 100 carries.  They’ll have little choice but to let him break out this year.  Few teams have a pair of 1,000 yard receivers, so Deacon fans can’t be too upset that they have only one.  And of the two, Sage Surratt was the more important.  It’s no coincidence that Wake’s season ending slide coincided with Surratt’s injury.  Wake went 7-1 in games where he was healthy, while Newman’s three worst games came without him.  Defensively, the pass defense has to be a major concern.  The Demon Deacons allowed the third most yards per attempt in the ACC, the third highest opponent completion percentage, and the third most passing touchdowns, allowing a largely inept Michigan State offense to pass for 320 yards in their bowl loss.  The only thing that partially salvaged them was 14 interceptions forced, second most in the conference.  The problem is that that pair of four year starting cornerbacks, graduated.  So for the first time since 2015, Wake Forest will have to figure out something different in penciling in that lineup card.  Safety Nasir Green, who suffered an ugly knee injury against Syracuse, will help some, if he’s ready to go.  He was missing spring ball either way, and it’s unclear if he will be ready to go in the fall.  If he’s still out, the secondary looks downright awful.  The pass rush improved from one of the worst in the FBS in 2018, to at least decent last year.  They will be heavily relied upon in 2020.


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WRSage Surratt, Junior
CZach Tom, Senior
KNick Sciba, Junior
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DECarlos Basham Jr., Senior
LBRyan Smenda Jr., Senior
SNasir Greer, Junior



#41 Florida State Seminoles
#6 in ACC
Coming off of their worst three year stretch since 1974-1976, being the entirety of the Darrell Mudra era, and the first year of Bobby Bowden, Florida State needed a reboot.  It’s not totally fair to Willie Taggart, Jimbo Fisher was basically mailing it in over the last couple years in terms of recruiting, and roster building, so the talent was nowhere near where it needed to be.  But I’m not sure it was a hole he could have dug out of, it had grown so toxic.  Things are going to look very different in Tallahassee in 2021, with an entirely new staff, 21 players either coming or going via the transfer portal, and a 25 man recruiting class that ranked #22 nationally.  The one thing Taggart deserves credit for is that he inherited a completely broken offense, and it was trending in a positive way.  The growth we saw from James Blackman was huge, and while he still struggles with consistency, I don’t think there is a quarterback in the ACC I would take before him, other than Trevor Lawrence and Sam Howell.  I know his 4 interception performance in the Sun Bowl loss to Arizona State is fresh in people’s minds, but that matched the 4 interceptions he threw total, in 7 ACC games.  The other spot Mike Norvell hopes to benefit from Taggart’s work is the offensive line, which has been the major problem for the Noles offense for the past three years, ranking dead last in line yards in 2018, and improving all the way to #115 last year, while ranking in the bottom 20 of the FBS in sack rate in all three years.  The Seminoles played three true freshmen last year, and if that group can get up to merely competent, it will go a long way.  The work Cam Akers did to reach 1,100 yards and 5.0 ypc, behind this line was truly remarkable.  The Seminoles averaged just 3.8 ypc as a team, and aside from Akers were at just 2.8.  Khalon Laborn got the next most work, with 63 carries, but the coaching staff is hoping the appeal of Texas A&M transfer Jashaun Corbin is approved.  He would almost certainly slide into that top spot.  The two year tenure of Harlan Barnett, a Mark Dantonio disciple, did not go particularly well, including giving up the most points in school history in 2018.  But things aren’t as bad as the raw numbers would suggest.  That “historically bad” 2018 defense, was actually #37 in SP+, undermined by the #97 offense and #96 special teams.  So just getting competent offense and special teams play should make this defense look a lot better.  The move from a 4-3 to a 3-4 last year made little sense, considering linebacker was the weakest position group on the defense, and you turn your best defensive lineman, a 2 technique tackle, Marvin Wilson, into a positionless tweener.  Wilson returned for his senior year, and while he led the team with 5 sacks last year, I expect him to blow past that number this year.  The secondary has more talent than the numbers last year would suggest, and I think will be pretty good this year, even with the early departure of Stanford Samuels.  Asante Samuels Jr. was the better cornerback of the two, and the highest rated recruit in the Noles’ 2021 class was cornerback Demorie Tate, from Orlando, the #34 recruit nationally.


KEY PLAYERS
QBJames Blackmon, Junior
WRTamarrion Terry, Junior
TBrady Scott, Junior
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DTMarvin Wilson, Senior
CBAsante Samuel Jr., Senior
SHamsah Nasirildeen, Senior


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #332 on: May 02, 2020, 11:21:56 AM »
ELA's Top 40 Hits

33 P5
8 Sec: 4 East/4 West
8 Big Ten: 4 East/4 West
6 Big Xii
5 Acc: 2 Atlantic/3 Coastal
5 Pac 12: 3 North/2 South
1 P5 Independent

7 G5
4 Aac: 2 East/2 West
2 Mountain West: 2 Mountain/0 West
1 Sunbelt: 1 East/0 West

By State:
3 Teams: Texas
2 Teams: Alabama, California, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, N Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Virginia
1 Team: Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Oregon, S Carolina, Utah, Washington and Wisconsin.

Iowa is the only 2+ team state without blemish.
Idaho, Minnesota, Nebraska and Wisconsin are unscathed 1 team states.
So that upper Central Time Zone portion of the mid west is clearly CFB's hot spot, with those four contiguous states that haven't yet lost a single team. How much longer can they hold off the Langoliers?
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #333 on: May 02, 2020, 12:19:42 PM »
I figure a Top 40 team has some slight chance of making the playoff, call it 0.5%, probably as a G5.  That chance would increase slightly of course as we get to 30 etc.  But we're talking "Contenduhs" now.

Sort of kinda.

I'm surprised 4 SEC E teams remain.  Two are obvious.

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« Reply #334 on: May 02, 2020, 12:22:41 PM »
Dave Clawson is excellent. 

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« Reply #335 on: May 02, 2020, 12:45:21 PM »
The AD that hired him who he liked left for Nebraska. He'd been looking around for a while.

Also, man OSU fans would've hated Leach. He's not cut for that sort of job.
I think you'd be surprised I wasn't the only Buckeye Fan who entertained the idea.Unfortunetly the Pirate's departure from Lubbock was under a cloud of suspicion. As was the Vest's who was just shown the door,so it was really a pipe dream.His Air Raid would be a complete 180 from Tressel Ball,it's always had me curious as hell.I think he could be a nightmare at USC/UCLA or Miami/FSU
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