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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2020, 06:58:16 PM »
In the race to the bottom, the Mac has nosed ahead of CUSA and the Sunbelt. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #141 on: March 24, 2020, 09:22:30 AM »
Is the P5 count now 2 for the B1G and SEC and one for the others?

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #142 on: March 24, 2020, 11:03:28 AM »

#86 Houston Cougars
#9 in American
Houston felt on the cusp of big boy things, landing Ed Oliver, and playing in the New Years Six.  But like Houston had occasionally in its history, every time it was on the cusp of playing with the big boys, the big boys swooped in and picked them apart.  This time, the Cougars decided they were going to spend like the big boys, poaching a Power Five school’s coach, in West Virginia’s Dana Holgorson.  The early returns?  Not favorable.  Houston stumbled to a 4-8 season, their worst since 2004, and his two best players quit the team.  Holgorson is an offensive guy, and while their offense was fine, it’s going to be a whole lot better if this is the joke of a defense he is going to roll out.  While the stated reason for D’Eriq King’s decision, at least initially, was a decision to play for 2020 in a manner that we are just only now starting to be ok with at the pro level, and we’ve never heard at the college level.  So while that got more media attention, that mentality carried over the defensive side of the ball.  The result was a predictable train wreck, that finished second worst in the American in scoring defense, total defense, rushing defense, and...hey, third worst in passing defense.  Several seniors saw their roles diminished to play some underclassmen, so now, with 8 returning starters, the hope has to be that it pays off.  The Cougars return the third most defensive production in the nation.  Holgorson is making too much money for Houston to just cut their losses after Year 2, so it’s probably co-defensive coordinators Doug Belk and Joe Cauthen who have more on the line.  They have one mega-playmaker to work with in positionless senior Grant Stuard.  Houston’s official depth chart lists him as a nickelback in a 4-2-5.  But it’s really a 4-2-4, and Stuard does all sorts of different things.  Houston’s official spring roster lists him as a linebacker.  The AAC named him as a safety in their 2019 postseason honors.  Beyond him though, very little of the youth movement showed promise.  As awful as the defense was, and as fine as the offense was, the Cougars were elite on special teams.  They have to replace punter Dane Roy, who was fifth in the nation in punting, but that’s it.  That includes kicker Dalton Witherspoon, who was 20-24 on field goals and perfect on extra points; and an elite group of returners who took 4 back for touchdowns last year, led by Marquez Stevenson’s two kick return touchdowns.  The offense has its own issues, as most of the metrics that incorporate some sort of luck factor indicate that they should have scored about 4 fewer points per game.  They were not on the field that much, converting just 34.8% of their third downs, and having the second highest giveaway rate in the conference.  But they averaged 30.7 ppg, with an expected scoring average 26.9, down nearly 13 ppg from 2018.  Houston had a top 4 class in the American in each of the past four seasons, so even with the departures they should still have enough talent to maybe flirt with bowl eligibility, but this program feels like a mess right now.  And speaking of incoming talent, the Cougars just inked their worst class in years, as Holgorson’s first complete class.


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QBClayton Tune, Junior
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WRMarquez Stevenson, Senior
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #143 on: March 24, 2020, 12:39:51 PM »
#86 Houston Cougars
#9 in American
Houston felt on the cusp of big boy things, landing Ed Oliver, and playing in the New Years Six.  But like Houston had occasionally in its history, every time it was on the cusp of playing with the big boys, the big boys swooped in and picked them apart.  This time, the Cougars decided they were going to spend like the big boys, poaching a Power Five school’s coach, in West Virginia’s Dana Holgorson.  The early returns?  Not favorable.  Houston stumbled to a 4-8 season, their worst since 2004, and his two best players quit the team.  Holgorson is an offensive guy, and while their offense was fine, it’s going to be a whole lot better if this is the joke of a defense he is going to roll out.  While the stated reason for D’Eriq King’s decision, at least initially, was a decision to play for 2020 in a manner that we are just only now starting to be ok with at the pro level, and we’ve never heard at the college level.  So while that got more media attention, that mentality carried over the defensive side of the ball.  The result was a predictable train wreck, that finished second worst in the American in scoring defense, total defense, rushing defense, and...hey, third worst in passing defense.  Several seniors saw their roles diminished to play some underclassmen, so now, with 8 returning starters, the hope has to be that it pays off.  The Cougars return the third most defensive production in the nation.  Holgorson is making too much money for Houston to just cut their losses after Year 2, so it’s probably co-defensive coordinators Doug Belk and Joe Cauthen who have more on the line.  They have one mega-playmaker to work with in positionless senior Grant Stuard.  Houston’s official depth chart lists him as a nickelback in a 4-2-5.  But it’s really a 4-2-4, and Stuard does all sorts of different things.  Houston’s official spring roster lists him as a linebacker.  The AAC named him as a safety in their 2019 postseason honors.  Beyond him though, very little of the youth movement showed promise.  As awful as the defense was, and as fine as the offense was, the Cougars were elite on special teams.  They have to replace punter Dane Roy, who was fifth in the nation in punting, but that’s it.  That includes kicker Dalton Witherspoon, who was 20-24 on field goals and perfect on extra points; and an elite group of returners who took 4 back for touchdowns last year, led by Marquez Stevenson’s two kick return touchdowns.  The offense has its own issues, as most of the metrics that incorporate some sort of luck factor indicate that they should have scored about 4 fewer points per game.  They were not on the field that much, converting just 34.8% of their third downs, and having the second highest giveaway rate in the conference.  But they averaged 30.7 ppg, with an expected scoring average 26.9, down nearly 13 ppg from 2018.  Houston had a top 4 class in the American in each of the past four seasons, so even with the departures they should still have enough talent to maybe flirt with bowl eligibility, but this program feels like a mess right now.  And speaking of incoming talent, the Cougars just inked their worst class in years, as Holgorson’s first complete class.


KEY PLAYERS
QBClayton Tune, Junior
RBKyle Porter, Senior
WRMarquez Stevenson, Senior
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DEDavid Anenih, Senior
LB/SGrant Stuard, Senior
CBDamarion Williams, Senior
For someone in Tulsa, Houston is an easy program to dislike.  And Dana Holgorsen is a weird dude who is also easy to dislike.  Tanking the 2019 season so that he can have his ducks lined up for 2020 stinks, IMO.
I don't want to see Houston go 4-8.  0-12 would be better.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #144 on: March 24, 2020, 06:43:31 PM »
With his coaching days increasingly numbered in Morgantown, Holgersen’s scramble to Houston seemed like a move solely to buy his head coaching career another few years, like Riley’s weird move to Nebraska. However, he’s not bought himself any goodwill in Houston. For a term so readily used at the pro level (tanking for Tua), was last year the first where a college program so openly tanked?? And what exactly was the logic? Redshirting to save players for this coming season? Such a dumb risk.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2020, 05:17:57 PM »

#85 Ohio Bobcats
#3 in MAC
Nathan Rourke departs Athens as the best quarterback in school history, after three years as the starter.  Who replaces him is truly completely wide open.  Junior Drew Keszei was listed as #2 on the depth chart last year, but he only got into two games, attempting just one pass.  Joe Mischler and Naylan Yates hit the transfer portal, leaving the only other quarterbacks on the roster as Nathan’s younger brother, redshirt freshman Kurtis Rourke, and incoming freshman C.J. Harris, who did not enroll early.  Quarterback might be the only thing standing between Frank Solich and an elusive first MAC title.  For as much as Solich has done for the school, including four conference championship trips (obviously all losses), eleven consecutive top three divisional finishes (including six consecutive top two finished), the fact that he hasn’t yet won a MAC title is frankly (pun originally unintended, but then left in place once realized) shocking.  The bobcats return skill position talent galore otherwise, including all four running backs they used, led by O’Shaan Allison, who was the breakout star, averaging 6.3 ypc, and leading the team with 869 yards.  It wasn’t just Allison though as the Bobcats average 5.5 ypc as a team, best in the MAC, and #7 nationally.  Allison, along with De’Montre Tuggle and Ja’Vahri Portis combined for 6.3 ypc on 267 carries.  They did that running behind an offensive line that featured three All-MAC seniors though, so they may find the running lanes a little more narrow.  It’s not just the ball carriers that return a deep stable, as the Bobcats return their top 6 receivers and all three tight ends who played.  The only player they’ll be missing from that room is D.L. Knock, who was an all-conference caliber returner, but only had 4 receptions on the season.  The defense allowed 5.8 ypp, but only loses two starters off one of the 20 youngest defense in the country a year ago.  The main problems were on the line, which is odd considering they had three seniors in the rotation.  The back seven featured just two seniors in their entire two deep.  And that unit ranked fourth in the MAC in ypa allowed, completion percentage allowed, and defensive passing efficiency, in spite of a very substandard pass rush.  If there are any nits to pick with the secondary, it’s their cement hands, with the fifth worst interceptions rate in the FBS, only five picks on the season (1.06%).  Two of those five interceptions were by role players in blowouts, nobody had more than one, and of the five, only two generated any return yardage (one of 9 and one of 14).  All three of their conference losses came by 3 points, one of which was in overtime, all three times involving Ohio’s opponent getting the final score of the game to win.  You’d hope going from one of the youngest defenses in the country, to one with 9 returning starters would flip some of those.  The Bobcats get Buffalo at home, but they have to travel to Oxford for the Battle of the Bricks, which could decide the division, and in a year where the divisional balance is this lopsided, may be a de facto MAC Championship Game.


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RBO'Shaan Allison, Sophomore
WRIsiah Cox, Junior
TERyan Luehrman, Senior
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DEAustin Conrad, Senior
LBDylan Conner, Senior
CBMarlin Brooks, Senior


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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2020, 05:30:23 PM »
damn, Frank might have tough season

hopefully not
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #147 on: March 25, 2020, 06:28:05 PM »
Ohio (the state) is in serious trouble. 3/4 of their teams have already burst onto the scene. Up to its armpits in the wood chipper. Only two teams remain. Pretty sure they are in the worst shape of any of the 5+ team states.
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2020, 06:35:00 PM »
Ohio (the state) is in serious trouble. 3/4 of their teams have already burst onto the scene. Up to its armpits in the wood chipper. Only two teams remain. Pretty sure they are in the worst shape of any of the 5+ team states.
One of the two teams carries the load for all 5, though... 

When one team is top-5, it excuses a lot from the others.

The state of Indiana can't claim that. Yeah, they've got a lot of teams remaining in this thing, but are unlikely to have anyone top 20, right? 

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2020, 06:42:53 PM »
Not ND?
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2020, 06:44:46 PM »
Not ND?
Yeah, they'll probably be top 20. They are perennially overrated, after all.

(Thanks for taking the bait.)

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #151 on: March 25, 2020, 07:46:21 PM »
So for the 5+ team states...

Alabama has lost 2/5
California is down 3/7; SDSU has beaten out at least Stanford (G5 over P5).
Florida is down 2/7
Louisiana is down 2/5
Michigan is down 3/5
N Carolina is down 2/7
Ohio is down 6/8
Texas is down 6/12; with a pretty big gap between Houston and their bottom 5.


Other notable goings on...
New Mexico, Connecticut, Hawaii and New Jersey have been entirely eliminated. All are one team states except NM, who was out of this thing faster than Kramer in "The Contest."
States where the G5 is outlasting the P5: Arkansas and Maryland are two team states where little brother is ruling the roost. In Tennessee Memphis has already outlasted Vandy, and is probably pretty well poised to finish ahead of the Vols as well.

The rest of the states appear to be getting their teams ranked in the order that one might expect. So far.

Remaining one team states: Idaho, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Wyoming. Who drops first?
2+ team states that are down to their final at bat: Arkansas (stAte), Kansas (KSU), Maryland (Navy), Massachusetts (BC) and Nevada (Reno). Who drops first?
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1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #152 on: March 25, 2020, 08:35:02 PM »
All three directional MI schools are gone

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #153 on: March 25, 2020, 08:40:47 PM »
Ohio (the state) is in serious trouble. 3/4 of their teams have already burst onto the scene. Up to its armpits in the wood chipper. Only two teams remain. Pretty sure they are in the worst shape of any of the 5+ team states.


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