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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #588 on: June 09, 2020, 10:27:55 PM »
A few notes before we get started: The returning production data is courtesy of ESPN’s Bill Connelly – it’s the best metric out there to measure just how much a program loses in one offseason – and was published in February. Any returning starter stats mentioned come from Phil Steele’s spring preview guide.

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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #589 on: June 09, 2020, 10:51:52 PM »
Looks interesting.  The OSU at #1 seems reasonable.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #590 on: June 10, 2020, 06:39:34 AM »
Where was LSU last year preseason?  We all know some teams gel unexpectedly, though the Burrow performance was unexpectable.

OSU and Clemson and OU will be right there, and probably Bama/UGA/UF somewhere near the top.  The precise ordering to me is irrelevant really, a discussion point I suppose.  Somebody else will turn out to be very good, Michigan, Washington, Texas, Wisconsin of course, UNC maybe ... A&M?

I don't know who of course.  But it's fun to discuss.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #591 on: June 10, 2020, 12:16:22 PM »
perhaps someone could come up with a huge cash prize for submitting the most accurate preseason top 25 (or any prize for that matter)

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like the NCAA basketball bracket madness

might have to include, "others receiving votes" so that there were not too many "perfect" submissions 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #592 on: June 10, 2020, 12:33:37 PM »
Even one perfect submission would be amazing, really. 

Think how hard it is to do in basketball, even with an entire season's worth of data to consult. 

A perfect preseason top 25 prediction? No way. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #593 on: June 10, 2020, 12:35:47 PM »
I'd guess given 10,000 chances we might get it right once.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #594 on: June 10, 2020, 01:25:19 PM »
WAY too early 2021 preseason top 25, assuming the only early departures are those players listed in CBS' 2021 Top 100 NFL Draft prospect rankings...


  • Oklahoma
  • PENN STATE
  • Oregon
  • MICHIGAN
  • Georgia
  • LSU
  • Texas
  • USC
  • Clemson
  • MINNESOTA
  • Alabama
  • OHIO STATE
  • IOWA
  • Florida
  • Oklahoma State
  • Louisville
  • Virginia
  • Auburn
  • WISCONSIN
  • Baylor
  • North Carolina
  • Virginia Tech
  • Notre Dame
  • INDIANA
  • Texas A&M


This means Brock Purdy is gone.  But if he returns, watch out big time for Iowa State, that becomes a top 10 roster on paper.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #595 on: June 10, 2020, 01:52:48 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 10, 2020, 06:39:34 AM
Where was LSU last year preseason?  We all know some teams gel unexpectedly, though the Burrow performance was unexpectable.

OSU and Clemson and OU will be right there, and probably Bama/UGA/UF somewhere near the top.  The precise ordering to me is irrelevant really, a discussion point I suppose.  Somebody else will turn out to be very good, Michigan, Washington, Texas, Wisconsin of course, UNC maybe ... A&M?

I don't know who of course.  But it's fun to discuss.
Sixth, behind three playoff teams, Bama and UGA. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #596 on: June 10, 2020, 01:54:41 PM »
Quote from: ELA on June 10, 2020, 01:25:19 PM
WAY too early 2021 preseason top 25, assuming the only early departures are those players listed in CBS' 2021 Top 100 NFL Draft prospect rankings...


  • Oklahoma
  • PENN STATE
  • Oregon
  • MICHIGAN
  • Georgia
  • LSU
  • Texas
  • USC
  • Clemson
  • MINNESOTA
  • Alabama
  • OHIO STATE
  • IOWA
  • Florida
  • Oklahoma State
  • Louisville
  • Virginia
  • Auburn
  • WISCONSIN
  • Baylor
  • North Carolina
  • Virginia Tech
  • Notre Dame
  • INDIANA
  • Texas A&M


This means Brock Purdy is gone.  But if he returns, watch out big time for Iowa State, that becomes a top 10 roster on paper.
In terms of way too early, this is way too early. 
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #597 on: June 10, 2020, 02:29:14 PM »
I always close with it.  It's generally pretty useless.  I will say two things, very conclusively (i) Oklahoma, with a little bit of guys returning to school luck is poised to be absolutely loaded; and (ii) with what Michigan should have back combined with what OSU has to replace, and the game being in Ann Arbor, if Harbaugh doesn't beat OSU next year, he does deserve to be fired.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #598 on: June 10, 2020, 03:21:16 PM »
Quote from: ELA on June 10, 2020, 01:25:19 PM
WAY too early 2021 preseason top 25, assuming the only early departures are those players listed in CBS' 2021 Top 100 NFL Draft prospect rankings...


  • Oklahoma
  • PENN STATE
  • Oregon
  • MICHIGAN
  • Georgia
  • LSU
  • Texas
  • USC
  • Clemson
  • MINNESOTA
  • Alabama
  • OHIO STATE
  • IOWA
  • Florida
  • Oklahoma State
  • Louisville
  • Virginia
  • Auburn
  • WISCONSIN
  • Baylor
  • North Carolina
  • Virginia Tech
  • Notre Dame
  • INDIANA
  • Texas A&M

This means Brock Purdy is gone.  But if he returns, watch out big time for Iowa State, that becomes a top 10 roster on paper.
So, what exactly is this list?  Your estimate of what the preseason AP Poll will look like?
I can't see Oklahoma as preseason #1 when we don't have a QB who has had any significant playing time.  Spencer Rattler (I do love the name) is supposed to be the next great thing, but there have been many guys before him with the big rep who fell flat on their faces when it came time to show it on the field.
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #599 on: June 10, 2020, 03:33:15 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 10, 2020, 01:52:48 PM
Sixth, behind three playoff teams, Bama and UGA.
That was a pretty good ranking really.  
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #600 on: June 10, 2020, 03:34:27 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on June 10, 2020, 03:21:16 PM
So, what exactly is this list?  Your estimate of what the preseason AP Poll will look like?
I can't see Oklahoma as preseason #1 when we don't have a QB who has had any significant playing time.  Spencer Rattler (I do love the name) is supposed to be the next great thing, but there have been many guys before him with the big rep who fell flat on their faces when it came time to show it on the field.
2021, next year, way too early (ha).

It's June, time for folks to get creative making up lists.  
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Re: 2020 ELA 130 Team Countdown
« Reply #601 on: June 10, 2020, 03:38:08 PM »
Some interesting questions for 2020 (I think, no doubt there are more):

1.  How far does LSU slip without Burrow?
2.  Michigan, can they beat OSU?  
3.  Will USC and Texas show signs of being back?
4.  Can Florida beat Georgia?
5.  How good is UNC going to be?
6.  How bad is Arkansa and Rutger going to be?
7.  Is Tennessee building a solid team that can compete in the East?
8.  Is Minnesota for real twice in a row?
9.  Does Wisconsin own the West?
10.  How normal will football look this season?
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