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Topic: B1G Power Rankings, week 6

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TyphonInc

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2020, 07:19:41 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 01, 2020, 05:38:24 PM
Ty still hasn't forgiven Sparty for '15

ehh, I "mailed" my votes in. Buckeyes didn't play, I didn't watch much ball. (Really only watched the Vanderbilt game with my girls.)

I forgot or didn't take into account the Northwestern win, and if I had a redo that prolly would have pulled sparty out of the cellar.
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2020, 03:02:35 PM »
FWIW:
I added in the vote from @iahawk15 .  I'm not going to do a new compilation but the totals used going forward include his vote.  The only change was that NU is now ahead of Iowa in both the raw and after removing the high and low.  
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2020, 03:08:38 PM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on December 03, 2020, 07:19:41 AM
ehh, I "mailed" my votes in. Buckeyes didn't play, I didn't watch much ball. (Really only watched the Vanderbilt game with my girls.)

I forgot or didn't take into account the Northwestern win, and if I had a redo that prolly would have pulled sparty out of the cellar.
It wasn't a wildly out of line vote at all.  MSU had two other votes for last place.  

It is hard to decide on that because there are eight teams in the league below .500 and with two or less wins:
  • 2-3 MSU
  • 2-3 MN
  • 2-3 PU
  • 2-3 IL
  • 2-4 M
  • 2-4 RU
  • 1-4 UNL
  • 1-5 PSU
There are no winless teams and frankly there is an argument for any of those eight at last place.  

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2020, 05:15:36 PM »
Massey Composite rankings going into this weekend


  • Alabama
  • Clemson
  • Notre Dame
  • OHIO STATE
  • Cincinnati
  • Florida
  • BYU
  • Texas A&M
  • Georgia
  • Oklahoma
  • Iowa State
  • INDIANA
  • Miami
  • WISCONSIN
  • Coastal Carolina
  • NORTHWESTERN
  • Oregon
  • USC
  • Marshall
  • Washington
  • Oklahoma State
  • IOWA
  • UL Lafayette
  • North Carolina
  • Texas



  • 60. Minnesota
  • 66. Purdue
  • 67. Michigan
  • 68. Maryland
  • 70. Michigan State
  • 71. Penn State
  • 84. Nebraska
  • 87. Rutgers
  • 88. Illinois


So that still keeps with kind of how I was thinking.  OSU has to be #1; Indiana, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Iowa have to be 2-5 in some order; Minnesota, Purdue, Michigan, Maryland, Michigan State and Penn State have to be 6-11 in some order; and Nebraska, Rutgers and Illinois have to be 12-14 in some order
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2020, 06:02:13 PM »
Last week Medina was busting chops for not putting MSU last, now he is busting chops for putting MSU last. Make up your mind. :111:
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2020, 05:25:33 PM »
We know that Minnesota, Northwestern, Michigan, and Maryland are not playing this weekend due to COVID outbreaks in Minneapolis and Ann Arbor.  If all other games are played as scheduled then after this weekend our 14 teams will have played the following number of games each:

  • Seven games; four teams:  IU, RU, PSU, IA
  • Six games; six teams:  MSU, M, NU, PU, IL, UNL
  • Five games; two teams:  tOSU, MN
  • Four games; two teams:  UMD, UW

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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2020, 05:50:46 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 04, 2020, 05:25:33 PM
We know that Minnesota, Northwestern, Michigan, and Maryland are not playing this weekend due to COVID outbreaks in Minneapolis and Ann Arbor.  If all other games are played as scheduled then after this weekend our 14 teams will have played the following number of games each:

  • Seven games; four teams:  IU, RU, PSU, IA
  • Six games; six teams:  MSU, M, NU, PU, IL, UNL
  • Five games; two teams:  tOSU, MN
  • Four games; two teams:  UMD, UW


That's an average of 5.85 games/team. 

Which means that by the "round up" rule, even if every game in the final week prior to champions week were cancelled, OSU/MN/MD/UW would be ineligible for the CCG. 
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Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 6
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2020, 06:11:29 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on December 04, 2020, 05:50:46 PM
That's an average of 5.85 games/team.

Which means that by the "round up" rule, even if every game in the final week prior to champions week were cancelled, OSU/MN/MD/UW would be ineligible for the CCG.
A couple points:

I think the "round up" rule applies after the issue of whether or not the average "dropped below six".  Ie, 5.85 IS less than six so if every final week game got cancelled the "no less than two fewer" language WOULD be invoked.  The average would be 5.85 which rounds up to six meaning that any team that played at least four games would be eligible  

Second, Ohio State and Minnesota could still be eligible even if the six game minimum applies as both will have played five games after this weekend (assuming tOSU/MSU happens).  Thus, if they also play next weekend (tOSU is scheduled to host M while MN is scheduled to visit UNL) they would have six games and be eligible.  

Third, in the case of MN, UMD, and UW it is (probably) irrelevant because none of them are in the running for their division championships anyway.  Assuming the rules are not changed, Northwestern has already clinched the B1G-W and Ohio State will represent the B1G-E in Indy unless they do not win anymore games.  
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