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Topic: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

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MaximumSam

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #714 on: January 16, 2021, 07:34:58 PM »
They're 14th in Kenpom, tied for fourth right now.

Granted, they've only had one game against another top-5 team thus far. They have five more. But they have one win.
What's crazy is they are sixth in offensive efficiency in the country, but looking at the roster you are trying to figure out who can score points. It feels like sorcery.

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #715 on: January 16, 2021, 09:18:38 PM »
Btw while this season is a grind, next season could be a dag basket of knives. I believe everyone gets a free year so every player can come back next year. The B1G is not heavy on NBA types - the Athletics current mock draft has 9 guys listed, but 8 in the second round. Teams like Wiscy and OSU could return every single guy.

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« Reply #716 on: January 16, 2021, 10:00:26 PM »
Btw while this season is a grind, next season could be a dag basket of knives. I believe everyone gets a free year so every player can come back next year. The B1G is not heavy on NBA types - the Athletics current mock draft has 9 guys listed, but 8 in the second round. Teams like Wiscy and OSU could return every single guy.
UW won't. They have two fifth year guys who did a year of prep school, one fifth-year guy who missed 1.5 years as a transfer, and a fourth-year guy who considered leaving last year. If they could get even Brad Davison back, it would be huge. Ford would also be nice if he felt like it.

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« Reply #717 on: January 16, 2021, 10:05:17 PM »
What's crazy is they are sixth in offensive efficiency in the country, but looking at the roster you are trying to figure out who can score points. It feels like sorcery.
They do a lot of stuff pretty well. 
They're very good at not turning it over and getting to the line.
They're pretty good at offensive rebounding. 
They're middling on 3s, better on 2s, but they hit their FTs, which is big when you get to the line so often. 

The lineup is intersting. Liddle is efficent and Washington has been solid despite bad shooting. Young isS low-usage but super efficent. Sueing has been pretty good and the piece around them all work, plus some of the other low usage guys can hit 3s.

I'm not excited for them to come to Madison. 

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« Reply #718 on: January 16, 2021, 11:44:25 PM »
Flipped off the playoff game for a minute. UVA is beating Clemson 25-5 with 6:30 to play in the first half. Clemson is shooting 13% from the field.
Virginia was offended that Clemson was #1 in the nation in defensive efficiency

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #719 on: January 16, 2021, 11:49:15 PM »
UW won't. They have two fifth year guys who did a year of prep school, one fifth-year guy who missed 1.5 years as a transfer, and a fourth-year guy who considered leaving last year. If they could get even Brad Davison back, it would be huge. Ford would also be nice if he felt like it.
Yeah, I think fewer guys are going to take advantage of it than you'd think.  Those that do, may transfer to do so. 

From a coaching perspective, you can only play so many guys, and some of them might struggle to figure out a rotation where 11 guys think they should play.

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« Reply #720 on: January 17, 2021, 09:04:23 AM »
UW won't. They have two fifth year guys who did a year of prep school, one fifth-year guy who missed 1.5 years as a transfer, and a fourth-year guy who considered leaving last year. If they could get even Brad Davison back, it would be huge. Ford would also be nice if he felt like it.
Nate? Not having a good year, but he's not coming back.

The NCAA will figure out a way to make Potter sit out another year.

Davison will be back, as will Anderson. Trice is 36 years old.
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« Reply #721 on: January 17, 2021, 10:43:47 AM »
I haven't tracked every team, just pointing out that it's going to be a weird year.  OSU has three guys in CJ Walker, Jimmy Sotos, and Kyle Young who would otherwise be in their last year.  Now, they...might be in their last year.  OSU would only have one true point guard on the team next year, so Holtmann has a lot of motivation to tell Walker to stick around.  Further, where are they going to go?  No NBA team is interested in CJ Walker and for guys like Young and Walker do you want to have another year of college and basketball or maybe try to chase the G League or Euroball.  

No doubt some guys will leave and some guys will get shoved out the door, but veteran teams might become really veteran teams next year.  If everyone returned for OSU they would have 8 seniors.  Wiscy (I think) starts five seniors and none of them have to leave.

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« Reply #722 on: January 17, 2021, 11:30:14 AM »
None of the UW seniors have announced intentions, except Nate Reuvers. He said he wasn't coming back before the season even started. Not sure where he thinks he's going, but it's not the NBA right now.
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #723 on: January 17, 2021, 11:43:22 AM »
None of the UW seniors have announced intentions, except Nate Reuvers. He said he wasn't coming back before the season even started. Not sure where he thinks he's going, but it's not the NBA right now.
Some people would rather travel Europe than add another degree right after their first. Wants to get away from the academy and have a real job!

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #724 on: January 17, 2021, 11:47:12 AM »
Nate? Not having a good year, but he's not coming back.

The NCAA will figure out a way to make Potter sit out another year.

Davison will be back, as will Anderson. Trice is 36 years old.
I think on the other board someone said Potter's is probably gonna jump because his stock is as high as it'll be. 

Anderson, he'd be a Badger for 10 years. I'm hoping Brad makes that call, but I could see him looking to take a next step. 

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #725 on: January 17, 2021, 11:51:29 AM »
I haven't tracked every team, just pointing out that it's going to be a weird year.  OSU has three guys in CJ Walker, Jimmy Sotos, and Kyle Young who would otherwise be in their last year.  Now, they...might be in their last year.  OSU would only have one true point guard on the team next year, so Holtmann has a lot of motivation to tell Walker to stick around.  Further, where are they going to go?  No NBA team is interested in CJ Walker and for guys like Young and Walker do you want to have another year of college and basketball or maybe try to chase the G League or Euroball. 

No doubt some guys will leave and some guys will get shoved out the door, but veteran teams might become really veteran teams next year.  If everyone returned for OSU they would have 8 seniors.  Wiscy (I think) starts five seniors and none of them have to leave.
I'm guessing a lot of guys might say $50,000 a year and no class is fine. Gotta remember, many aren't in college because it's a dream as much because it's the path. Walked will be 24 in March. Young could be more interesting. 

I think it'll be much more interesting on the mid-major level and below. Most Big Ten starters can count on being able to play ball for decent money if they want. Less so at smaller schools. 

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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #726 on: January 17, 2021, 12:56:10 PM »
Wesson didn't even come back for one senior year, let alone two. 
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Re: 2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #727 on: January 17, 2021, 01:53:29 PM »
Wesson didn't even come back for one senior year, let alone two.
He's got NBA dreams. Andre might have given it another go though.

 

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