2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

[MaximumSam]

I didn't find Washington's late drives to be good shots at all, mostly because there was still time to work for something good instead of just wild shots near the basket. As far as OSU it really felt like they gave the game away, and if they hadn't would be near a 1 seed, which is still crazy to me.

[bayareabadger]

I didn't find Washington's late drives to be good shots at all, mostly because there was still time to work for something good instead of just wild shots near the basket. As far as OSU it really felt like they gave the game away, and if they hadn't would be near a 1 seed, which is still crazy to me.

The first one, he blows past his guy and forces help. I suppose if the answer is if the other team has Cockburn, you don't want a guard trying to score at the rim, but I don't know that OSU has a player I'd want trying to score at the rim over that dude. 

The second one, he's trying to score 1-on-1 with 11 on the clock. I get the theory, a thicker guard should be able to hit that. But he didn't take it well and should've just kicked out for the Young 3. 

I think at some point, if you want to win big games, you're gonna have to hit some tough shots (or hell, some of the not tough ones they got). Like the go-ahead shot for Illinois wasn't pretty tough, but the kid just hit it. Also, the defensive miscue that allowed a 53.8 percent 3-point shooter to be wide open of the game-tying shot was real bad. That Young-Liddell pairing is a real tough set against the style of frontcourt Illinois has and they kinda lost a man while worrying about Cockburn.

[medinabuckeye1]

I wouldn't get too deep into the last three shots because you're almost never gonna take a good shot down 5 with under 25 seconds left.

Good point and I was thinking of eliminating them from my list on the theory that the game was pretty much over once Illinois made the two FT's to make it a five point game at 0:25.

Exclusive of those last three, Ohio State missed seven straight shots between 3:48 and 0:30. 

• 1-4 would have pushed tOSU's lead to seven or eight with between 2:33-3:32 to go.
• 5 would have pushed tOSU's lead to six with 1:54 to go.
• 6 would have given tOSU a three point lead with 1:09 to go.
• 7 would have cut Illinois' lead to one with 0:30 to go.

My point is that tOSU was oh-so-close which is what made this loss so painful. Any of 1-6 would have given Ohio State a nearly 100% chance to win and even #7 would have at least left Ohio State to shoot a three for a tie at the buzzer.

[medinabuckeye1]

And in the end, you have a sort of flawed team (that defense) that is for the most part better than expected, and maybe better than the players it has, but after zenith landed with a thud. Like in the preseason, if I told OSU fans they'd be borderline top-10, great offense, top 2-3 seed, fifth in the conference, they'd take it. And if I told them that on Jan 20 they'd take it (maybe as late as right before the Iowa game?). But because of the timing, it feels just much worse.

This is a very fair point.  In the preseason I certainly was NOT expecting tOSU to be a top-4 seed.

My breakdown of the season is slightly different:

• 8-3 / 2-3 in first 11 games through January 3. In retrospect none of the OOC wins were terribly impressive and the first five league games were not either with home wins over RU and UNL and road losses to PU, NU, and MN.
• 10-1 from January 9 to February 18. This was an incredible run with a multitude of impressive wins and the only loss was a one possession deal to PU.
• 0-4 since February 18. On one hand none of these were truly bad losses: Only IA was by more than five points and three were to top-10 teams with the other to a Tom Izzo team that appears to be rounding into tournament shape. OTOH, they won tougher games in that 10-1 stretch.

[Brutus Buckeye]

Last four games of the regular season today. 

A little bit of everything on the docket. Do you want the slugfest between two ranked opponents? #5 Iowa hosts #25 Wisconsin. Do you prefer the "throw out the records" in-state rivalries? The Wolverines head to E Lansing. Are you in the mood for the hilariously bad pillow fight between two cellar dwellers? The Huskers head to Evanston to battle it out for the "Real NU." Is the potential of a catastrophic upset what tickles your fancy? The Leos head on over to Maryland.  

How wacky would the brackets get if all four games end in upsets? 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Big Sky bracket

Wednesday, March 10
Game 1
No. 9  Sacramento State vs. No. 8 Northern Colorado – 9 a.m. MT
Game 2
No. 10 Northern Arizona vs. No. 7 Portland State – 12 p.m. MT
Game 3
No. 11 Idaho vs. No. 6 Montana – 3 p.m. MT

Thursday, March 11
Game 4
No. 1 Southern Utah vs. Game 1 Winner – 11 a.m. MT
Game 5
No. 5 Montana State vs. No. 4 Idaho State – 2 p.m. MT
Game 6
No. 2 Eastern Washington vs. Game 2 Winner – 5 p.m. MT
Game 7
No. 3 Weber State vs. Game 3 Winner – 8 p.m. MT

[medinabuckeye1]

Holman era at Ohio State so far:
2017/2018:

• 24-7/15-3 regular season.
• 2nd place in B1G, 1 game out of first.
• One-and-done in BTT, lost to 7th place PSU. 
• NCAA 2nd round. #5 seed beat #12, lost to #4.
• Final KenPom, 16.

2018/2019:

• 18-13/8-12 regular season.
• 8th/9th place in B1G, 8 games out of first.
• 1-1 in BTT, beat 8/9 IU, lost to 1/2 MSU.
• NCAA 2nd round. #11 seed beat #6, lost to #3.
• Final KenPom, 42.

2019/2020:

• 21-10/11-9 regular season.
• 5th/6th/7th/8th place in B1G, 3 games out of first.
• BTT canceled.
• NCAA canceled.
• Final KenPom, 8.

2020/2021:

• 18-8/12-8 regular season.
• 5th place in B1G, 3.5 or 4.5 games out of first.
• BTT TBD
• NCAA TBD
• Final KenPom TBD, current 7.

Edited to add final KenPom courtesy of @MaximumSam 

[MaximumSam]

Holman era at Ohio State so far:
2017/2018:

• 24-7/15-3 regular season.
• 2nd place in B1G, 1 game out of first.
• One-and-done in BTT, lost to 7th place PSU. 
• NCAA 2nd round. #5 seed beat #12, lost to #4.

2018/2019:

• 18-13/8-12 regular season.
• 8th/9th place in B1G, 8 games out of first.
• 1-1 in BTT, beat 8/9 IU, lost to 1/2 MSU.
• NCAA 2nd round. #11 seed beat #6, lost to #3.

2019/2020:

• 21-10/11-9 regular season.
• 5th/6th/7th/8th place in B1G, 3 games out of first.
• BTT canceled.
• NCAA canceled.

2020/2021:

• 18-8/12-8 regular season.
• 5th place in B1G, 3.5 or 4.5 games out of first.
• BTT TBD
• NCAA TBD

KenPom final ranks:

18: 16
19: 42
20: 8
21: currently 7

[MaximumSam]

Joe Wieskamp hurt his ankle for the Hawkeyes, which would be a big blow if it is a serious injury

[FearlessF]

good game in Iowa City

[MaximumSam]

Huge energy building in Wisconsin - Iowa, so the refs made sure to snuff it out by looking at the monitor for five minutes

[iahawk15]

Pretty weak foul call to end the game for Trice there.




... but I'll take it.

[MaximumSam]

A very ref oriented ending there

[MaximumSam]

https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/1368648483331141634?s=19