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Topic: 2019 Purdue Season Thread

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bwarbiany

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2019 Purdue Season Thread
« on: January 03, 2019, 02:21:42 PM »
Purdue heads into 2019 with currently the 25th-ranked recruiting class in the nation, and 5th in the B1G.

Interestingly, according to Rivals, 4 of the top 10 ALL-TIME* recruits are either in this class or Rondale Moore. Currently highlighted by DE George Karlaftis, who comes in at 2nd on that list.

We're currently waiting on David Bell's announcement at the All-American Bowl on Saturday. Reportedly he has told people that he's already picked his school, and 247 has his crystal ball as 90% Purdue. If he signs, he would slot in as the 5th-best all-time. Granted, that would still leave only 4 of the top 10 Purdue recruits in this class, as safety Marvin Grant would then slip from 10th to 11th.

* "All-time", of course, appears to only go back to ~2001 or so, as I can't find anyone prior to that listed for several schools on the "all-time" list.
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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 12:02:17 PM »
I feel like I'm in the minority here, but I get a bad vibe that Bell added Ohio State to his list of finalists.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 12:06:23 PM »
That said, Brohm did blue shirt Wahlberg and grey shirt Triplett.  I doubt he does that unless he knows Bell is coming.

In other news, we have an extra opening now that Mendez is leaving the program.  Not good.  Year 3 is already looking suspect because of the young and inexperienced OL.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 12:18:01 PM »
That said, Brohm did blue shirt Wahlberg and grey shirt Triplett.  I doubt he does that unless he knows Bell is coming.

In other news, we have an extra opening now that Mendez is leaving the program.  Not good.  Year 3 is already looking suspect because of the young and inexperienced OL.
I'm just glad that announcement day, for well or ill, is upon us tomorrow. At least we'll know. 
I saw [and commented] on the Mendez thing on H&R
H&R. I suspect that this was just him reaching the end of the road, realizing that he already had his degree in hand, wasn't realistically going to play on Sundays, and decided he might as well not subject himself to another year of getting the crap kicked out of him and start his "real" life. 
But something about it stuck with me, and I'm not sure what to make of it. I thought it was odd that the announcement that he was leaving the program came from his mother. I sincerely hope that he's okay. We've seen a number of CFB players dealing with depression and other psychological issues, and the repeated head collisions certainly don't help any of that. I hope for his sake that none of that is a concern. 

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 03:35:47 PM »
I did find it odd that his mother was speaking for him.  

I do hope all is well, he was a solid player and seems like a good person.

From a football perspective, it really sucks.  He played a lot this year, and was pretty much a gauranteed starter next year.  Losing an upperclassmen with that experience really hurts.  Purdue is desperately thin on OL with lots of underclassmen.  This could really be a hurt piece.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 02:05:53 PM »
It's official: David Bell is a Boilermaker! 


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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 05:46:20 PM »
Double official. Apparently he signed during the early signing period, but he and Purdue kept it under wraps until today. 

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2019, 01:10:15 PM »
Purdue is going to have a killer WR core next year.  Good luck defending that.  Only option is to beat the line and get to the QB.

Lol, Bell is the 2nd Purdue recruit to publicly punk Ohio State with his commitment.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2019, 01:35:11 PM »
So to put this class in perspective...

Purdue, with Bell, moved up one spot to be ranked 24th for the 2019 class. That may possibly drop as some schools get late commitments and Purdue is full. They're 5th in the B1G, and likely to stay there as #6 [MSU] and #7 [UW] don't really have much if any open offers listed as "warm" on 247 with higher ratings than Purdue's average player rating of 86.66.

Where does this rank historically? 

Purdue has 5 incoming 4-star recruits. George Karlaftis is right on the edge of 5* (247 rates him 5* and #11 nationally, but his composite is only 4*). Based on the 247 "all time" number, I think that's the most they've ever had in a single year. I see a few years where I count about 3 4* recruits, but never 5.

  • Looking at the "all-time" [i.e. since 2001], 3 of the incoming 2019 recruits would be in Purdue's top 10.
  • A 4th, Rondale Moore from the 2018 class, is top-10.
  • 4 of the 2019 recruits are top-11.
  • 6 of the 2019 recruits are top-25, including Mershawn Rice who slips in as a 3* at #25. 
  • Putting 2018 and 2019 classes together, 13 of Purdue's best 50 recruits since 2001 come from those two classes.
  • 24 of Purdue's best 100 recruits have come from 2018/19 classes. 

Jeff Brohm has excited fans, but after two years sits at a relatively pedestrian 13-13 record. One might ask why Purdue would pony up $6M per year, a top-10 salary nationally, to keep a 13-12 [at the time] around? 

Well, it's because they see what's coming in. After Hazell left the cupboard bare, 13-13 in his first two years was actually a pretty good record. And if he can do that with Hazell-era talent, we think what he can do with the talent coming in will be worth it. 

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 07:05:56 AM »
The nice part is that the recruiting is an unexpected bonus.  

Brohm was known for being an X's and O's guy.  His offense at WKU was around the top of the NCAA in many categories.  Purdue hired him because of this, and the fact that he is a QB guru, which fit perfectly into the "Cradle of QB's" identity.

His recruiting, on the other hand, was always middle of the pack in CUSA.  People were concerned we might get a good coach who couldn't find the talent to get over the hill in the B1G.

His magic with QB's has certainly been verified.  Anyone can take a look at how much Blough improved.

His X's and O's have made bowl teams out of bottom feeders.

His recruiting is like finding that lost present under the X-Mas tree that just might be the best of the haul.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 12:36:17 AM »
What kind of record are you anticipating for Purdue in 2019?

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 01:13:08 PM »
Purdue 2019 Schedule

  • @ Nevada
  • vs Vandy
  • vs TCU
  • BYE
  • vs Minnesota
  • @ PSU
  • vs Maryland
  • @ Iowa
  • vs Illinois
  • vs Nebraska
  • @ Northwestern
  • BYE
  • @ Wisconsin
  • vs Indiana

I see Purdue finishing OOC at least 2-1, with upside of 3-0. TCU doesn't exactly look world-beating, and we get them at home.

In conference, I see us going minimum 3-2 at home. Illinois and Indiana should be definite wins, and I think we get at least 1 of the remainder. Maryland breaking in a new coach helps. We'll have revenge in mind against Minnesota. Nebraska is still a work-in-progress, but I think year 2 of Frost should be a big step up from 2018. 4-1 is a realistic possibility.

Away, I'm not sure. I could see us going anywhere between 1-3 and 3-1 there. And "1-3" doesn't mean I've identified a lock win, just that I think we can steal a minimum of one road game there. But I see a high likelihood that PSU and Wisconsin will definitely be favored, Iowa is looking like they might have issues due to graduation/NFL early entrants but is always tough, and Northwestern is usually rounding into form come November.

I think Purdue should have expectations in that sort of 7-5, 8-4 range. Given the incoming talent, it being year 3 of Brohm, and a more favorable schedule than 2018, I think 6-6 would be a disappointment. And I think given the still-present talent disparity on the Purdue roster to the rest of the conference, 9-3 would be really surprising upside. Just based on talent, I think there are games in there that we *could* win that we won't due to talent.

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Re: 2019 Purdue Offseason Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2019, 01:08:21 AM »
I see your points. 7-8 wins are probable. 9 is possible.

 

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