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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1680 on: July 22, 2019, 06:59:30 PM »
You might be mischaracterizing the other part. But that depends on whether I understand what you're saying.



Says they should have a get out of jail free card


This seems accurate of you. He thinks everyone should have one free transfer with immediate eligibility.


then turns around and suggest there scamming the system if they do
You are acting like these two things can't both be true. It's not inconsistent to want a future system with a get out of jail free card and also think the present system can be scammed.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1681 on: July 22, 2019, 07:07:52 PM »
A Ribeye?To each his own pilgrim,salt it ahead of time,day or two,oil it.onto the indirect zone over med- high heat finish over the hot zone.Nice evenly cooked
Damn right. The only thing I didn't do was salt in advance. I put a little worcestershire on it to help the salt and pepper adhere, hit it with salt & pepper, and put it on indirect. When it was almost up to temp, I pulled it off and wrapped in foil while I let the grill get screaming hot, and seared.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1682 on: July 22, 2019, 07:12:34 PM »
You might be mischaracterizing the other part. But that depends on whether I understand what you're saying.

This seems accurate of you. He thinks everyone should have one free transfer with immediate eligibility.

You are acting like these two things can't both be true. It's not inconsistent to want a future system with a get out of jail free card and also think the present system can be scammed.

I think what Harbaugh is suggesting is that you shouldn't make them spend a year in transfer jail. 

The concern is that claiming depression, or racism as in the Fields transfer from Georgia, becomes a "get out of jail free card" because the jail still exists and this is an extremely easily-navigated and hard-to-adjudicate loophole. After all, the minute the NCAA makes players get evaluated by a psychiatrist for claiming depression they'll get skewered for blaming the victim.

It's like when medical marijuana was the only legal marijuana in California. Marijuana possession would get you in trouble with the law unless you carried a "get out of jail free card", i.e. your medical marijuana card. And getting one of those was TRIVIALLY easy. Most of the people that had them didn't have legitimate medical need; they just wanted to get high. But they still managed to get the card. 

What Harbaugh is suggesting is akin to when California recently fully legalized marijuana even for recreational use. Now there's no need for a "get out of jail free card" because there's no legal penalty to using/possessing marijuana.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1683 on: July 22, 2019, 07:12:47 PM »
You might be mischaracterizing the other part. But that depends on whether I understand what you're saying.



This seems accurate of you. He thinks everyone should have one free transfer with immediate eligibility.
You are acting like these two things can't both be true. It's not inconsistent to want a future system with a get out of jail free card and also think the present system can be scammed.

Oh Harbaugh talking out of both sides of his mouth while contradicting himself are both true and that's exactly what everyone's harping on - you're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.Good points Bwarb,but you know if you have a Knee/Hip/Shoulder/Ankle injury - how do you prove the other.My points are he should not have brought that up with his inferences not even remotely cloaked - why bring it up?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1684 on: July 22, 2019, 07:20:18 PM »
Damn right. The only thing I didn't do was salt in advance. I put a little worcestershire on it to help the salt and pepper adhere, hit it with salt & pepper, and put it on indirect. When it was almost up to temp, I pulled it off and wrapped in foil while I let the grill get screaming hot, and seared.
Damn I might even try a an IPA with that....if there's not a warm Pabst available
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1685 on: July 22, 2019, 07:25:02 PM »
Oh Harbaugh talking out of both sides of his mouth while contradicting himself are both true and that's exactly what everyone's harping on - you're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.Good points Bwarb,but you know if you have a Knee/Hip/Shoulder/Ankle injury - how do you prove the other.My points are he should not have brought that up with his inferences not even remotely cloaked - why bring it up?
From what I've seen almost every author with a negative take on this is harping because they think Harbaugh accused Hudson of lying. But he didn't. I put the whole radio quote in this thread. So we know he didn't. Jim didn't even mention James Hudson or his team once. 

The only author I've seen who has harped on Harbaugh for this without mistakenly saying Harbaugh accused Hudson of lying is John U. Bacon, who was bummed that he artlessly tackled the depression issue in general. (...) Which has also been my take.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1686 on: July 22, 2019, 07:26:55 PM »
Good points Bwarb,but you know if you have a Knee/Hip/Shoulder/Ankle injury - how do you prove the other.My points are he should not have brought that up with his inferences not even remotely cloaked - why bring it up?
I completely agree. It's dangerous to bring it up at the same time you have a player transferring and trying to get immediate eligibility just invites people to draw a parallel, even if his statement wasn't intended to suggest anything negative about Hudson.

I'm not defending Harbaugh bringing it up, I just saw a minor debate about "get out of jail free cards" and thought that was a tangent that was unnecessarily dissuading from the actual discussion about Harbaugh. 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1687 on: July 22, 2019, 07:28:40 PM »
I think what Harbaugh is suggesting is that you shouldn't make them spend a year in transfer jail.

The concern is that claiming depression, or racism as in the Fields transfer from Georgia, becomes a "get out of jail free card" because the jail still exists and this is an extremely easily-navigated and hard-to-adjudicate loophole. After all, the minute the NCAA makes players get evaluated by a psychiatrist for claiming depression they'll get skewered for blaming the victim.

It's like when medical marijuana was the only legal marijuana in California. Marijuana possession would get you in trouble with the law unless you carried a "get out of jail free card", i.e. your medical marijuana card. And getting one of those was TRIVIALLY easy. Most of the people that had them didn't have legitimate medical need; they just wanted to get high. But they still managed to get the card.

What Harbaugh is suggesting is akin to when California recently fully legalized marijuana even for recreational use. Now there's no need for a "get out of jail free card" because there's no legal penalty to using/possessing marijuana.
This has been my view, too. I see Nubbz just agreed with the general sentiment here. (I think you and I aren't communicating as clearly as we want to, Nubbz.)

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1688 on: July 22, 2019, 08:38:24 PM »
This is very simple. The media is making it far more controversial than it should be.

To my understanding, every sport except football and basketball allows transfers without sitting out (at least the first time). The fact that this exists in football and basketball seems like the mandatory freshman inegibility rules from the 70s (which apparently weren't in effect for non-revenue sports, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong). I fully support how the transfer portal was implemented and so should immediately eligibility for first-time transfers (much like grad-transfers). I don't understand why this is controversial, especially given the waiver process that has lead to all kinds of inconsistencies....
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1689 on: July 22, 2019, 08:59:26 PM »
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It's not quite as a spacious as a minivan, but it's more comfortable for me as a daily driver.

So I avoided the minivan, by getting a large station wagon.
I haven't driven one, but I like the Flex.  It's utilitarian, but there's just enough style in it--with the indented panel lines--that it's nice-looking.  And I remember reading good reviews on it when it came out.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1690 on: July 22, 2019, 09:15:25 PM »
This is very simple. The media is making it far more controversial than it should be.


ding ding ding, winner
but Harbaugh should be well aware of this and chose his words carefully.  If he can't do that then he shouldn't bring it up. 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1691 on: July 22, 2019, 09:20:15 PM »
Damn right. The only thing I didn't do was salt in advance. I put a little worcestershire on it to help the salt and pepper adhere, hit it with salt & pepper, and put it on indirect. When it was almost up to temp, I pulled it off and wrapped in foil while I let the grill get screaming hot, and seared.
Searing immediately is thought to help keep the juices in.  I coat my steaks in canola oil to help the salt & pepper adhere and the oil also burns off at a higher temp than the juices.  Helps retain moisture.  After searing I can pull off to indirect to bring to temp without overcooking.

the reverse sear is for presentation
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1692 on: July 22, 2019, 09:36:16 PM »
ding ding ding, winner
but Harbaugh should be well aware of this and chose his words carefully.  If he can't do that then he shouldn't bring it up.
100% with this

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1693 on: July 23, 2019, 12:47:05 AM »
Searing immediately is thought to help keep the juices in.  I coat my steaks in canola oil to help the salt & pepper adhere and the oil also burns off at a higher temp than the juices.  Helps retain moisture.  After searing I can pull off to indirect to bring to temp without overcooking.

the reverse sear is for presentation
https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/more-cooking-science/myth-searing-steaks-seals-juices

Old wives tale. 

 

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