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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #560 on: March 13, 2019, 04:36:39 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2019, 03:07:23 PM
When I think about that, I'm glad I'm getting older. Snowflakes are going to be in charge someday.
Every generation things the next one is ruining things, and the world keeps mostly getting better.
We’ve all does this before and we all will again.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #561 on: March 13, 2019, 04:44:39 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2019, 04:32:25 PM
There is a shortage of engineers and scientists right now. Every person I know who is trying to hire cannot find anyone. The headhunters are making a killing right now.


I've got 4 snowflake nieces in Cali who majored in art history - two at Stanford, one at Dartmouth (now at Harvard in grad school, for art history) and one at Washington. But, they all have trust funds. Big ones.
The top part links to an exponential growth in the number of science and engineering jobs. Colleges, which are often geared toward excusivity, haven’t maintained supply. 
UW made a point of trying to weed out people who wanted to be engineers. You got the kids who were good enough to not suck their first year in college and mathematically inclined, but you didn’t get more engineers. 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #562 on: March 13, 2019, 04:45:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 13, 2019, 04:03:08 PM
When I was 20, the folks my age thought things were getting worse because my generation was all goofy hippies and worthless.
they were not wrong
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #563 on: March 13, 2019, 04:53:39 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 13, 2019, 04:45:45 PM
they were not wrong
How so. How are things actually worse? 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #564 on: March 13, 2019, 05:00:42 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 13, 2019, 04:44:39 PM
The top part links to an exponential growth in the number of science and engineering jobs. Colleges, which are often geared toward excusivity, haven’t maintained supply.
UW made a point of trying to weed out people who wanted to be engineers. You got the kids who were good enough to not suck their first year in college and mathematically inclined, but you didn’t get more engineers.
We need more kids who are interested in the civil engineering field, for sure, to backfill all the ones who got out of the business when 2008 happened. The bigger problem is the knowledge gap that created. The seasoned 40 y/o engineer is just not out there. It's guys like me, or older, or very young and green.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #565 on: March 13, 2019, 05:02:01 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 13, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
How so. How are things actually worse?
no, just pulling Cincy's leg
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #566 on: March 13, 2019, 05:03:11 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 13, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
Every generation things the next one is ruining things, and the world keeps mostly getting better.
We’ve all does this before and we all will again.
I think we peaked in the 2000's. We'll know if I'm correct in 20 years or so.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #567 on: March 13, 2019, 05:15:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2019, 05:00:42 PM
We need more kids who are interested in the civil engineering field, for sure, to backfill all the ones who got out of the business when 2008 happened. The bigger problem is the knowledge gap that created. The seasoned 40 y/o engineer is just not out there. It's guys like me, or older, or very young and green.
True. I wonder about the exclusivity. Like if you want to build elite engineers, that’s super, but you’ll have to create a mechanism to make some less elite ones too. 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #568 on: March 13, 2019, 05:24:16 PM »
Many of the elite schools turn out really crappy engineers, to be honest. Some of the "lesser" schools do a better job with practical stuff. I'd be more inclined to hire a UW-Platteville grad over a UW grad, right out of school. Same goes for Wayne State vs. Michigan. It's a book smart-life dumb thing. 



I know what the programs are, and what they do. I've been working on that over the years, in my roll on the Curriculum Committee at UW. They seem to get it, but are slow to change. Elite and all that, ya know.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #569 on: March 13, 2019, 07:13:39 PM »
I was trying to hire a lab tech back in the day, needed a BS in chemistry and some sense.  I interview nine "locals", several from Miami U. with 3.9 GPAs.  None of them had ANY clue about lab work, at all.  Nada.  Same with 2 from Xavier and one from UC.  My boss finally found this fellow from Northwestern, sounded good to me, until I saw his resume, NW of Louisiana.  Turned out to be one of the 2-3 best lab techs I ever had.  One of the other two only had a two year degree.  Another good one was from Ohio U, with an archeology degree.  He learned stuff really quickly and was very hard working.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #570 on: March 13, 2019, 07:23:41 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2019, 04:05:18 PM
What percentage of people got art history degrees back in your generation?
Trick question.  Back then it was called Contemporary Art
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #571 on: March 13, 2019, 07:27:20 PM »
the real world can be VERY different than the classroom
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #572 on: March 13, 2019, 09:04:40 PM »
Truth.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #573 on: March 13, 2019, 09:05:13 PM »
Quote from: ELA on March 13, 2019, 07:23:41 PM
Trick question.  Back then it was called Contemporary Art
Shame on me. 
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