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Topic: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness

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Cincydawg

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #644 on: March 18, 2019, 10:49:25 AM »
Yup, it's just that an MS in engineering is a useful degree, in say chemistry, it's nearly worthless.  You won't get paid any more than someone with a BS.  

A PhD in engineering is nearly worthless outside academia, in many cases, whereas in the sciences it gives you an entry point well ahead of anyone with an MS.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #645 on: March 18, 2019, 10:56:19 AM »
A buddy of mine at work had a PhD in Chem Eng, he got it at Columbia in 8 years.  He was a very smart, but very unmotivated guy.  I was about ten years in and full of ambition.  He was section head and got demoted back to staff, which was a hard knock.  I ended up being his defacto boss in the sense he was content to do whatever I asked of him, and if it was interesting he'd do an incredibly good job.  If not, well, he wouldn't do anything.

Our boss at the time was worthless and didn't care about anything at all.  We'd have weekly meetings and he'd just nod and say "Good work, carry on."

I always felt it was a huge waste of a good man, and it was.  Of course, after I'd been there 25 years or so I was much the same person though far less capable than Harry.

I wasn't burned out exactly, but my apathy was exceptional.  I didn't care, my boss didn't care, his boss didn't care, no one else cared.  That's how I ended up posting so much around here.  There was a lot of horsepower at that company sitting around doing nothing.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #646 on: March 18, 2019, 10:57:09 AM »
I'd rather have my finger and toe nails plucked out, one by one, than go ice fishing. It would have the same effect on my fingers and toes anyway.
I will never live anywhere again where there is a potential for ice and snow. I love shoveling sunshine during the winter here in Phoenix. 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #647 on: March 18, 2019, 12:35:07 PM »
When your skin is sticking to the seats in July give us an up date :dink:
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #648 on: March 18, 2019, 12:42:41 PM »
My wife and I met when she was  nearing the end of Med School and I was nearing the end of law school.   She was stunned by the complete indifference we all had to studying or caring all that much as a 3L.   

We have totally different study habits and strengths , hopefully our kids can benefit from that balance.  I handle all of the writing, research and general humanities while the wife does all the math and science .

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #649 on: March 18, 2019, 12:54:21 PM »
It is interesting how grad school is looked at by the different majors. An MS in Engineering is NOT a consolation prize by any stretch. It is looked upon as an achievement, for sure. In my field, you don't see many PhD's in practice. They generally tend to stay in academia.
I don't find that to be true in my line of work [data storage for HDD and SSD]. In order to keep increasing density, we need those PhD's, because nobody else in the world has the sort of specialized knowledge that they do. I remember one of our sales meetings a few years ago [before the SSD acquisition] where they were talking to the 400+ sales and field engineering people in the room, and said that within the company, we employed more PhD's than people in that room. 
As another point, I remember when I interviewed at Motorola coming out of college. The job I was interviewing for was doing embedded microcontroller work, and I'd be implementing the signal processing algorithms in the processors. I asked "so would I be involved in developing any of those algorithms?" The interviewer said "nope, we leave that to the PhD's."
That said, I agree with your wider point. An MS in engineering is definitely a feather in your cap. And while I'd say that a lot of PhD's end up in academia, for certain fields that's definitely not a rule. 

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #650 on: March 18, 2019, 01:01:41 PM »
Regarding the "the competition is over" comment, it reminded me of a study I learned about many years back. The study was trying to correlate college choices with future earnings. 

  • The correlation wasn't what college you graduated from. 
  • The correlation wasn't what colleges you were accepted to. 
  • The correlation WAS what colleges you applied to

Essentially, if you have balls and put in the time to apply to Harvard, you're probably the type of person who at least has SOME shot of getting into Harvard. You're not going to even apply if you're the type of person who would only qualify for your local community college. 

The study kind of concluded, to a large extent, that individual success had nothing to do with how "elite" the education you received was. It had much more to do with what you brought to the school to begin with. 

That said, I'm guessing that if you make it into Harvard Law School, your likelihood of blowing it after that point is nearly zero, barring outside forces [drug addiction, legal trouble, etc]. You've already signaled to the world that you're the type of person who is going to be a success. If you were going to fail, you would have done so much earlier and never gotten into Harvard Law.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #651 on: March 18, 2019, 01:11:14 PM »
Child #2 got a law degree and passed the bar but said 60% of the class failed the bar exam first time.

I know the Patent Bar has a high failure rate.  It would be a bummer to get a law degree and not pass the bar exam, even first time.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #652 on: March 18, 2019, 01:23:17 PM »
If I coached at a Georgia Southern kind of school, I'd run a gimmicky offense and find those "dual threat" QBs who are offered to play safety at UGA etc.  I might devise some kind of two QB system, or go the other way and just run the "single wing" kind of thing.  Sorry if you're a WR in my system, you are a decoy, you needn't come to practice.  We're going to play 8 on 8 or 7 on 7, maybe you can block a bit.

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #653 on: March 18, 2019, 04:39:03 PM »
that would be a decent strategy at many programs that want to make a sudden move up in their conference rankings

Kansas in the Big 12 or even a program like Nebraska that has recruiting challenges compared to the programs at the top of the conference.

Back in Osborne's era, there were some darn fine blockers that didn't weigh 200 lbs.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #655 on: March 25, 2019, 08:44:43 PM »
If I coached at a Georgia Southern kind of school, I'd run a gimmicky offense and find those "dual threat" QBs who are offered to play safety at UGA etc.  I might devise some kind of two QB system, or go the other way and just run the "single wing" kind of thing.  Sorry if you're a WR in my system, you are a decoy, you needn't come to practice.  We're going to play 8 on 8 or 7 on 7, maybe you can block a bit.
Need the WRs to work on the finer points of blocking. Gotta learn to sell those on the play-action

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #656 on: March 25, 2019, 11:21:00 PM »
I just got done reviewing 30 applications for Michigan's DC alumni chapter scholarship, and I have to say that most of them were rather authentic and well-written, many had a good idea about what they wanted from their college experience and even professional goals, some even already had meaningful internships and research experience, and it appeared that most of them had genuine need for the scholarship (some were first-generation students, immigrants, ailing family members, parents with blue-collar jobs, etc.). There were a few duds (and maybe the rest had already been filtered out), but I was asked to score and rank them, and most of them were pretty tough to differentiate, though it's also hard to compare an aspiring computer scientist or engineer to an accomplished musician or entrepreneur.... Unfortunately 1 will get the scholarship, and sounded like only a few others might have the means to be able to attend even though they were all admitted and many stated Michigan would be their top choice despite having also applied to Ivy League and top ACC schools.

I post this not to brag about Michigan, but it's a nice reminder that there are a lot of intelligent and motivated students out there who have integrity and don't have the advantages of people who grew up like I did, much less those with wealthier parents than mine. For any of you who have the opportunity to be involved in your own local alumni club's scholarship committee, I highly recommend it.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #657 on: March 30, 2019, 09:19:42 AM »
Mornin' all. 


Lobster, corn and home-made fries are on the docket for tonight. I might throw an Asian twist at these things. Still thinking about it.


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