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Topic: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1932 on: August 12, 2019, 08:10:50 PM »
SI doesn't know everything and it's just another person's opinion, but one more vote for the Husker's helmet status


https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/best-programs-college-football-history
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1933 on: August 12, 2019, 08:36:05 PM »
Are we still welcoming Nebraska to the Big Ten?That thread ran for like for 3 years thanx to a certain long winded Bug Eater.It was almost as bad as Sun Devil Froggy's avatar.....almost
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1934 on: August 12, 2019, 08:39:42 PM »
someone deleted the thread

I looked for it a couple years ago
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1935 on: August 12, 2019, 08:48:19 PM »
Don't think the archives went back too many pages.Would have loved to dig up the Big 12 archived banter circa 2004-2011.Combination of Point-Counter Point,National Lampoon,Crossfire and Roller Derby.Would be recommended reading if saved/found
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1936 on: August 12, 2019, 08:52:49 PM »
SI doesn't know everything and it's just another person's opinion, but one more vote for the Husker's helmet status


https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/best-programs-college-football-history
The article did not give what criteria were used, and how they were weighted, to arrive at its results, but the results seem questionable to me.
Naturally, what stands out to me is OU #10, with Tennessee, Penn State, Nebraska and Texas ranked higher.  I see total wins mentioned, along with national championships.
Total wins matters, but so does winning percentage. One stat favors longevity, the other performance. When considering 150 years, longevity does matter.  But does what teams did in the 1880s matter as much as what they did in the 1980s?
So, OU has more wins and a higher winning percentage than Penn State, as well as more conference championships and more national championships. Admittedly, Penn State was an independent for most of its history, but that is a factor that can cut both ways.  OU leads head-to-head 2-0 FWIW.
Compared to Tennessee, OU has more wins, a higher winning percentage, more conference championships, and more national championships.  OU leads head-to-head 3-1, FWIW.
Compared to Nebraska, OU has more wins (by 1), a higher winning percentage, more conference championships, more national championships, and the better head-to-head record 45-38-3.
Sooner homer that I am, I think that OU has accomplished a bit more than Texas on the national stage.  OU has 12 fewer wins, 45 fewer losses, and 20 more ties, so a higher winning percentage.  OU has more conference championships and more national championships, while Texas leads the head-to-head 62-47-5.  If someone wants to argue that that puts Texas ahead, I can accept that.  But Texas #4 and OU #10?  No way.
Just considering the AP Poll era, CFN put out the following from its analysis of 137 programs.

RankTeamsPointsPrevious Rank
1Oklahoma11821
2Alabama10622
3Ohio State10523
4Michigan9854
5Notre Dame9755
6USC8326
7Texas7898
8Nebraska7837
9Penn State69410
10Tennessee6869

I don't agree with this one either.  Nick Saban has put Alabama firmly ahead of everyone else, it seems to me, but the AP Poll has treated OU very well over the decades.  Without regard to how this list was created vs. how the SI list was created, I'd take this one, drop OU to about 5th, and consider the list to be at least in the ball park.
Of course, this is just one man's opinion too. ;)
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1937 on: August 12, 2019, 09:01:06 PM »
Golderned Dirt Burglar - don't you have some puppy's to kick?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1938 on: August 12, 2019, 09:20:42 PM »
I would rank the Sooners ahead of the Huskers, probably why I wasn't a part of the "Prick Squad"
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1939 on: August 12, 2019, 09:31:13 PM »
I would rank the Sooners ahead of the Huskers, probably why I wasn't a part of the "Prick Squad"
Go back to 1999 and there would be no doubt that the Huskers should be ahead of the Sooners.  The 21st century has not been kind to Big Red.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1940 on: August 12, 2019, 10:00:55 PM »
I can agree with 1999.  Was very close. either fan would have a good argument

sure wish we would have played in 98 and 99, series might have been about even at the end of 99

but Stoops got things going in 2000 and Solich's slide started after 2001
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1941 on: August 12, 2019, 11:11:33 PM »
I can agree with 1999.  Was very close. either fan would have a good argument

sure wish we would have played in 98 and 99, series might have been about even at the end of 99

but Stoops got things going in 2000 and Solich's slide started after 2001
Yep.  The Huskers would have racked up two more wins!
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1942 on: August 12, 2019, 11:18:51 PM »
it's possible

perhaps even probable
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1943 on: August 12, 2019, 11:19:30 PM »
Perhaps a near-certainty.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1944 on: August 13, 2019, 07:09:50 AM »
Virtually a sure thing.  

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1945 on: August 13, 2019, 10:08:23 AM »
60% of the time, it works every time. 

 

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