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847badgerfan

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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1204 on: June 09, 2019, 12:13:17 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 09, 2019, 11:07:13 AM
2007 sounds right.  I recall driving my nearly new Cadillac up there.  I was out of commission in 2005.
Uh, yeah. I remember reading the paper and getting the message that you were not coming.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1205 on: June 09, 2019, 12:41:34 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 09, 2019, 10:16:49 AM
Yes, corngrats Gopher!

enjoy the ride
As opposed to what a long strange trip it's been
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1206 on: June 09, 2019, 01:07:41 PM »
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1207 on: June 09, 2019, 08:30:08 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 09, 2019, 09:19:45 AM
So the jury laughed because the school actually did say something defamatory? Or because whatever was said is in that nebulous area of what is defamatory?

(It seems like a free speech question. The articles I found seemed a bit dodgy on the particulars of the speech. Of course, a case like this tends to turn on the minutia, even if it tends to get swept up in the rather broad flows of narrative and the world)
The plaintiffs presented evidence at the trial (which the jury must have found credible) which demonstrated the cooperation by school administrators in the dissemination of libelous and defamatory materials (ex. one 'Dean' was actively promoting and distributing the materials).     The school rested its defense on a couple remarkable points, that they were 1. only protecting the forum/practice of free speech by the students who were defaming the plaintiffs and 2.  frankly the continuous belittling of the family business itself. summed up by the defendant's experts that it was a failing business and only worth $35,000 (or 1/2 a year as a student at Oberlin).

The brain dead email issued by the school after the verdicts and BEFORE the punitive damages phase was incredibly boneheaded.  They doubled down on their denial, criticizing the jury.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1208 on: June 09, 2019, 09:08:43 PM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on June 09, 2019, 08:30:08 PM
The plaintiffs presented evidence at the trial (which the jury must have found credible) which demonstrated the cooperation by school administrators in the dissemination of libelous and defamatory materials (ex. one 'Dean' was actively promoting and distributing the materials).    The school rested its defense on a couple remarkable points, that they were 1. only protecting the forum/practice of free speech by the students who were defaming the plaintiffs and 2.  frankly the continuous belittling of the family business itself. summed up by the defendant's experts that it was a failing business and only worth $35,000 (or 1/2 a year as a student at Oberlin).

The brain dead email issued by the school after the verdicts and BEFORE the punitive damages phase was incredibly boneheaded.  They doubled down on their denial, criticizing the jury.
Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like a good way to lose a trial, especially appearing like they’re punching down.

Edit: After digging into the day-by-day coverage, the part when a university employee asked about leveraging the contract that had been discontinued to get charges dropped against the students, good lord. You deserve to be out some coin if you’re that dumb. The control of the students part seemed a bit of a stretch, at least with my public university background, but trip over yourselves with some of those text messages and the jury is going to award as much money as they’re allowed to. 
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1209 on: June 09, 2019, 09:38:36 PM »
I've been out of town a solid week so have missed some of those final days of testimony, but that kind of posture and arrogance deserves to be exposed in this fashion.  They so desperately wanted all of this to be true and did not care one bit for who was in their wake.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1210 on: June 09, 2019, 10:29:41 PM »
So a 2nd Florida player from the '06 NC team committed murder.  S Tony Joiner #19, in addition to TE Aaron Hernandez.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1211 on: June 09, 2019, 11:09:08 PM »
David Ortiz was shot in the DR (wounded, not known how serious) according to his father.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1212 on: June 10, 2019, 10:17:23 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 09, 2019, 10:29:41 PM
So a 2nd Florida player from the '06 NC team committed murder.  S Tony Joiner #19, in addition to TE Aaron Hernandez.
thugs win championships
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1213 on: June 10, 2019, 10:19:21 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on June 09, 2019, 11:09:08 PM
David Ortiz was shot in the DR (wounded, not known how serious) according to his father.
I'm probably going to smh when you tell me, but what is "DR"?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1214 on: June 10, 2019, 10:21:46 AM »
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1215 on: June 10, 2019, 12:08:40 PM »
And now for something completely different...

Saw Hamilton this weekend with the family. Wow. Great show.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1216 on: June 10, 2019, 12:42:29 PM »
just saw the new Mac Pro that Apple unveiled and some leaked photos of the iPhone 11. Yuck. Damn computer costs a fortune and it looks like a cheese grater. If the leaks of the iPhone 11 are true, then holy shit. Count me out. I'm jumping off the Apple bandwagon and I've had all Apple everything since the original iPhone.

I was the biggest Apple stan ever. Pretty amazing just how fast Tim Cook is destroying that company.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1217 on: June 10, 2019, 06:22:55 PM »
Quote from: SFBadger96 on June 10, 2019, 12:08:40 PM
And now for something completely different...

Saw Hamilton this weekend with the family. Wow. Great show.
I really liked it. 

As someone who has studied the Revolutionary period quite heavily, I thought it was historically accurate too. And as someone who--for various political reasons--is not a fan of Hamilton the man, was worried that it would lionize him. But in reality, it was focused on the positives and the negatives of one of the less-understood Founding Fathers. All while being quite entertaining.
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