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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #266 on: April 05, 2019, 01:58:02 PM »
General consensus by some fellows at NFL.com:
1 - ARI - Murray, QB, Oklahoma
2 - SF - Bosa, DE, Ohio St
3 - NYJ - Allen, DE/LB, Kentucky
4 - OAK - Williams, DT, Alabama
5 - TB - White, LB, LSU
6 - NYG - Gary, DE, Michigan
7 - JAX - Taylor, T, Florida
8 - DET - Sweat, DE/LB, Miss St


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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #267 on: April 06, 2019, 09:53:52 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 05, 2019, 01:58:02 PM
General consensus by some fellows at NFL.com:
1 - ARI - Murray, QB, Oklahoma
2 - SF - Bosa, DE, Ohio St
3 - NYJ - Allen, DE/LB, Kentucky
4 - OAK - Williams, DT, Alabama
5 - TB - White, LB, LSU
6 - NYG - Gary, DE, Michigan
7 - JAX - Taylor, T, Florida
8 - DET - Sweat, DE/LB, Miss St
the only picks out of any of those I like is Bosa to San Fran, Williams to Oakland, and Sweat to Detroit. All pretty much sure things and good value picks.
Kyler Murray is going to be a giant flop if Arizona does take him #1 imo. I am not buying him as an NFL QB for even a second. They'd be way better off trading down and trying to build out the roster. Tampa Bay needs a hell of a lot more than a LB. No disrespect to White. He's a very good player, but Top 5 pick? Don't see it. That's LT/Derrick Thomas territory. Same goes for Allen out of Kentucky, who I think is being ridiculously over-hyped. Jacksonville needs more than a OT, and Nick Foles is not an answer, he's a stop gap. If they pass on Dwayne Haskins they are flat out stupid.
NY Giants need a QB in the worst way. IF they pass on Haskins for Rashan Gary, dear god are they stupid. I love Gary. Rashan Gary is a great person with 0 baggage and an absolute FREAK of nature who at 6'4.5", 280 could realistically play anywhere along the line of scrimmage, but he's had a couple injury issues with his shoulder the last two years in a row and he's flat out raw. He never developed his pass rush or his hands, he just relied on his incredible physical talent. I wouldn't take him in the top 10 because he's not going to be an instant impact player. He's going to take a year or two to really hit his stride, but when he does, look out. Still- that doesn't justify taking him that high or passing up a franchise QB in Haskins. Eli Manning will be like 40 years old after next season and he flat out sucks and has flat out sucked for YEARS. If they don't move all in Haskins they are just beyond stupid.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #268 on: April 06, 2019, 11:38:02 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 06, 2019, 09:53:52 PM
. . . Kyler Murray is going to be a giant flop if Arizona does take him #1 imo. I am not buying him as an NFL QB for even a second. They'd be way better off trading down and trying to build out the roster. Tampa Bay needs a hell of a lot more than a LB. No disrespect to White. He's a very good player, but Top 5 pick? Don't see it. That's LT/Derrick Thomas territory. Same goes for Allen out of Kentucky, who I think is being ridiculously over-hyped. Jacksonville needs more than a OT, and Nick Foles is not an answer, he's a stop gap. If they pass on Dwayne Haskins they are flat out stupid. . . .
A year ago that was a widespread opinion about Baker Mayfield, and he's turned out OK.
Kyler's a different kind of guy than Baker is.  Where Baker is loud, Kyler is quiet.  Where Baker is brash, Kyler is reserved.
But Kyler has a kind of talent that you don't see come around every year.
I had reservations about Kyler Murray going into last year's CFB season.  But he made me shut my pie-hole.
I still have two reservations about him in the NFL.
1.  I think he might get seriously injured just because of his size.  But he is very good at dodging hits, and he knows how to slide like nobody's business.
2.  His leadership might be lacking.  He might be too quiet and reserved.
But there's a big upside too.  He's mobile, he's fast, he makes good reads, and he's a very accurate passer.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #269 on: April 07, 2019, 12:18:01 AM »
The Barry and Emmitt talk reminds me of how people would denigrate Tim Raines in relation to Rickey Henderson.    It is annoying, and I'm no Cowboy fan, that Emmitt gets punished often in  a RB discussion/ debate.

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #270 on: April 07, 2019, 02:27:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 06, 2019, 09:53:52 PM

NY Giants need a QB in the worst way. IF they pass on Haskins for Rashan Gary, dear god are they stupid. I love Gary. Rashan Gary is a great person with 0 baggage and an absolute FREAK of nature who at 6'4.5", 280 could realistically play anywhere along the line of scrimmage, but he's had a couple injury issues with his shoulder the last two years in a row and he's flat out raw. He never developed his pass rush or his hands, he just relied on his incredible physical talent. I wouldn't take him in the top 10 because he's not going to be an instant impact player. He's going to take a year or two to really hit his stride, but when he does, look out. Still- that doesn't justify taking him that high or passing up a franchise QB in Haskins. Eli Manning will be like 40 years old after next season and he flat out sucks and has flat out sucked for YEARS. If they don't move all in Haskins they are just beyond stupid.
The Giants have a long, recent history of taking freak defensive linemen, even with severe needs elsewhere.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #271 on: April 07, 2019, 09:59:02 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 06, 2019, 09:53:52 PM
Kyler Murray is going to be a giant flop if Arizona does take him #1 imo. I am not buying him as an NFL QB for even a second. They'd be way better off trading down and trying to build out the roster.
Not sure if he flops,I can see him being used like The Squeelers use to use Kordell Stewart - he has ability.I just don't see him being a plug in and play at that position for a decade.I'd hang on to Rosen,too many teams hit the panic button after one season if a prospect doesn't match Marino's '83 season.This could be a smoke screen also to snag additional draft picks.But with societys inability to keep it's mouth shut via social media  - I doubt it
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #272 on: April 07, 2019, 10:16:00 AM »
the next Russell Wilson if given the right opportunity

perhaps
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #273 on: April 07, 2019, 11:11:13 AM »
I think his height/weight might be a disadvantage in the Sunday League from the pocket perspective.Where as running could benefit him as he could gains some yards because he's harder to see behind the behemoths
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #274 on: April 19, 2019, 05:24:43 PM »
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #275 on: April 19, 2019, 05:49:46 PM »
Quote from: ELA on April 19, 2019, 05:24:43 PM
Raiders doing Raiders things


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1119274857080991745
They should just call the Gruden hotline. I'm sure Tony Romo is trustworthy. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #276 on: April 20, 2019, 11:15:01 AM »
This is the first year in a long time that I haven't really looked at the draft. It seems better days are ahead for us Browns' fans
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #277 on: April 20, 2019, 12:35:55 PM »
Amen to that RR,I was still interested in the draft but after the Browns traded their 1st & 3rd picks that's has waned a bit.Sort of wished they hadn't given up the 3rd round  pick as OBJ is entering his 6th season.Hopefully he's uber productive for the Browns and injury free
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #278 on: April 23, 2019, 10:21:48 PM »
Late start, but trying to get through my 7 round mock

FIRST ROUND

1.CardinalsDT Quinnen Williams, Alabama
2.49ERSDE NICK BOSA, OHIO STATE
3.JetsOLB Josh Allen, Kentucky
4.RaidersDE Montez Sweat, Mississippi State
5.BuccaneersILB Devin White, LSU
6.GiantsQB Kyler Murray, Oklahoma
7.JAGUARSTE T.J, HOCKENSON, IOWA
8.ColtsDT Ed Oliver, Houston
9.BillsOLB Brian Burns, Florida State
10.BRONCOSILB DEVIN BUSH, MICHIGAN
11.BengalsT Jawaan Taylor, Florida
12.PACKERSTE NOAH FANT, IOWA
13.DOLPHINSDE RASHAN GARY, MICHIGAN
14.FalconsDE Clelin Ferrell, Clemson
15.PanthersT Jonah Williams, Alabama
16.REDSKINSQB DWAYNE HASKINS, OHIO STATE
17.GiantsT Andre Dillard, Washington State
18.VikingsG Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
19.TitansDT Christian Wilkins, Clemson
20.SteelersWR D.K. Metcalf, Ole Miss
21.SeahawksCB Byron Murphy, Washington
22.BroncosQB Drew Lock, Missouri
23.TexansG Cody Ford, Oklahoma
24.RaidersCB Greedy Williams, LSU
25.EaglesRB Josh Jacobs, Alabama
26.LionsCB Deandre Baker, Georgia
27.PatriotsDT Dexter Lawrence, Clemson
28.ChargersDT Jeffery Simmons, Mississippi State
29.ChiefsFS Nasir Adderly, Delaware
30.PackersWR Marquise Brown, Oklahoma
31.RamsC Garrett Bradbury, NC State
32.RaidersG Dalton Risner, Kansas State

TRADES
Lions trade #8 pick to Colts for #26 pick, 2nd round (#34) and 3rd round (#89)
Redskins trade #15 pick to Panthers for #16 pick and 5th round (#154)
Ravens trade #22 pick to Broncos for 2nd round (#41), 3rd round (#71) and 4th round (#125)
Raiders trade #27 pick to Patriots for #32 pick and 3rd round (#97)
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #279 on: April 23, 2019, 11:22:38 PM »
I like the OL pick for the Vikes
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