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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2019, 12:17:26 AM »
I enjoy discussions.  When I see someone acting irrational, I make note of it.  
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #127 on: March 16, 2019, 09:20:54 AM »
Must be a hell of a diary you keep
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2019, 09:45:11 AM »
everyone has their own definition of "irrational"

their own irrational actions usually seem "normal" or rational to them
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2019, 10:59:59 AM »
Quote from: ELA on March 11, 2019, 05:18:07 PM
I guess this has become also the NFL Offseason thread, why not.

Lions are oddly all in in free agency today.  Danny Amendola, meh.  But they signed the top rated TE, DE and nickel on the market.  Not exactly sure why, but whatever.  I guess might as well do what you can while you've got Stafford, and see if it all falls into place.
Its like the Pats retirement home, or the Pats AAF team, dunno. 
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2019, 02:31:05 PM »
Kansas City Chiefs star WR Tyreek Hill involved in a police investigation regarding an alleged battery involving a juvenile. Apparently his 3 year old son wound up with a broken arm. Police were called to his house on March 14th to investigate the matter. Hill's name wasn't listed on the police report, just his son and his fiance who was listed as "others invovled". But just 9 days before that on March 5th, police were called to his house to investigate a report of child abuse or neglect, and Hill's name was listed on that police report- and the case was closed 3 days later when prosecution was declined.

This guy had a history of domestic violence going back to his days in college. It's why he was kicked out of Oklahoma State and why he dropped to the 5th round of the NFL draft.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26275558/investigation-involving-chiefs-wr-hill-underway
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #131 on: March 16, 2019, 02:51:15 PM »
I don't get it how much stress can the guy have?His bills are covered so he still has to be a thug - no reason.If he's guilty he should be taken deep into the forest and disemboweled with a wooden spoon
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2019, 08:13:30 PM »
Yeah, seriously.  If history’s taught us anything, it’s that once you’re rich and famous, all your issues go away!
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #133 on: March 16, 2019, 11:53:02 PM »
If history has taught us anything child abusers should be shot and probably they're sympathizing enablers also
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #134 on: March 17, 2019, 06:21:33 AM »
What percentage of first rounders become starters, at least?  Is this somewhat equivalent to five star HS players?

I'm going to guess 80% become starters or significant contributors over a career (other than those ended by injury).  If so, that's a pretty good ratio, and suggests NFL teams aren't dumb.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #135 on: March 17, 2019, 09:24:37 AM »
higher percentage of O and D linemen than QBs and WRs I'd guess
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2019, 09:34:18 AM »
QB seems like the greatest shooting of dice.  Running back seems like it pays barring injury.  There was a period with zero RBs taken in the first, and then after Gurley it's become more of a thing.

Defensive backs seem to be a solid pick.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2019, 02:08:35 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2019, 06:21:33 AM
What percentage of first rounders become starters, at least?  Is this somewhat equivalent to five star HS players?

I'm going to guess 80% become starters or significant contributors over a career (other than those ended by injury).  If so, that's a pretty good ratio, and suggests NFL teams aren't dumb.
Most all 1st rounders get a shot to be starters. How many stay starters or produce at a high level is a different question. I'd say that is much less than 80%.
Not really equivalent to 5 star HS players, because when a team takes a player in the 1st round they have committed a lot to that player in terms of draft value- as teams usually only have one 1st round pick per draft and 7-10 picks per draft- and also financially, because 1st rounders make significantly more money than 2nd and 3rd rounders and so on. Compare that to college, where teams can get as many 5*'s as they can sign- the players aren't paid anything- and if Johnny 5* doesn't pan out- so what- you've got 24-30 other players in his class and you'll have 20-30 more players and more 5*'s if you can sign them- in your next class.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2019, 02:33:27 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 17, 2019, 06:21:33 AM
What percentage of first rounders become starters, at least?  Is this somewhat equivalent to five star HS players?

I'm going to guess 80% become starters or significant contributors over a career (other than those ended by injury).  If so, that's a pretty good ratio, and suggests NFL teams aren't dumb.
Playing your first round pick is a self-fulfilling prophecy, though.  They get playing time because of talent, yes, but also because you’re paying them a lot of money and you don’t want to acknowledge making a poor draft choice.
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Re: 2019 NFL Draft
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2019, 04:00:22 PM »
Professional teams play a substandard player because they pay him a lot when they have an alternative available who is better?

Hmmmmmmm,
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