2019 Michigan Season Thread

[bayareabadger]

WR room is very crowded in Madison. Not sure about MSU's WR situation, but I have to believe he's going to Iowa. That being the case, he will not get a waiver. Those are reserved for helmet schools only.

Is it though?

I'll take more talent please. 

[847badgerfan]

Yeah, they have a lot of guys who are good/very good. I expect to see the WR's look a whole lot better this season. But, I don't want to turn this thread into a Wisconsin one. 

[Cincydawg]

It strikes me as rare that a wide received can have a large impact on an offense.  It happens when you have a guy who is truly elite such that he has to be found before every snap and probably doubled, or lined up with your best guy on D.  Most of them in top programs strike me as capable and very good but not elite.  Some have good hands, run good route, have elite speed and cutting ability, and length, whatever, but few have the entire package.

A very good, but not elite, running back or quarter back might have a greater impact on the game than a very good but not elite WR.

[MrNubbz]

But, I don't want to turn this thread into a Wisconsin one.

You're gettin' soft man

[FearlessF]

true, but in the right offense, which is more and more the case, the WRs are having more impact

obviously, to have that impact, you need the QB with the arm talent to get the ball to the outside and down the field

if you've affected the defense to pull a safety back to help, it opens up things for other players (TE & RB) underneath and in the middle of the field

even in an offense like the Badgers that gets 2,000+ yards from the tailback, a very good WR can make those plays on the 2 or 3 chances a game that they throw over the top

[Mdot21]

It strikes me as rare that a wide received can have a large impact on an offense.  It happens when you have a guy who is truly elite such that he has to be found before every snap and probably doubled, or lined up with your best guy on D.  Most of them in top programs strike me as capable and very good but not elite.  Some have good hands, run good route, have elite speed and cutting ability, and length, whatever, but few have the entire package.

A very good, but not elite, running back or quarter back might have a greater impact on the game than a very good but not elite WR.

Agreed. WR is a completely dependent position. Needs the line and QB and RBs helping him to get his. 

QB and RB can do way more on their own and get way more opportunities/touches a game. 

Even a dominant WR might only get 8-10 touches a game. 

The QB is touching it every play and the RB is getting at least double the touches of a WR on average.

[Hawkeye0111]

Reports are that Martin has begun classes in Iowa City and is joining the team for workouts this week. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

As per a college logos site, this was UM's main logo pre-1978.  Can a Michigan man confirm or deny this?  I'm using this for my pre-'78 UM teams for my card & dice game (which is nearing release).  I don't want to use it unless some of you recall it from your youth.

I'm hoping it's not some silly monstrosity no one has ever seen.

[ELA]

I can't confirm it was their MAIN logo, but I can confirm it was A logo until well after that.  I had a good deal of stuff with that logo on it in the 80s and early 90s.  I think it may have been replaced by the MICHIGAN in a block across the M.

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, they have a lot of guys who are good/very good. I expect to see the WR's look a whole lot better this season. But, I don't want to turn this thread into a Wisconsin one.

Ha, I was scrolling up and just assumed you were here flattering the Michigan receivers.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Here's the site, and it has the years of each logo.
http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/750/Michigan_Wolverines/



I thought the block M with "Michigan" across it was a major logo, too, but I was told by UM people here the yellow block M has always meant 'Michigan'.  What I'm doing is trying to use the various logos through the years used by schools, as my team cards go back to 1971.  So I use the big red N for Nebraska until the mid-90s, where it's the red N with black "Huskers" across it.  I use the elephant through the A until a certain year for Alabama until it changed to the fancy A within a circle as it is now, etc.  



I guess my question is that if I was a Michigan fan and bought this game with my beloved 1973 Michigan team set in it, would I prefer the yellow block M or the one with the wolverine on it?  Which would seem more correct?

[Anonymous Coward]

I still have a difficult time understanding why Oliver Martin would transfer after playing for Michigan his redshirt freshman year. Unless he goes to an FCS, or below program, he must sit out one-year. Either something is very wrong for him academically at Michigan, or he is a very poor fit on the football team, or he is very home sick. When I visited Ann Arbor it seemed so much like Iowa City that it is hard to imagine a guy from Iowa City would not feel right at home in Ann Arbor.

I wish Oliver Martin well, wherever he goes.

That's right. Based on business prospects and logic, it was not a good idea to leave. Especially since at least one and perhaps as many as three of DPJ/Black/Collins will be clearing space after this year. So he was nearly guaranteed to be a starter in 2020 by staying at Michigan.

M fans argue "but Sainristil just overtook him!" but I disagree both on spring camp prematurity and on the basis that Martin's skill set is different than Sainristil's, more broad; Martin can certainly excel outside the slot.

The only way to make sense of Martin's exit requires the premise that - whether for personal, academic, and/or football reasons - he was deeply unhappy in Ann Arbor.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Here's the site, and it has the years of each logo.
http://www.sportslogos.net/logos/list_by_team/750/Michigan_Wolverines/



I thought the block M with "Michigan" across it was a major logo, too, but I was told by UM people here the yellow block M has always meant 'Michigan'.  What I'm doing is trying to use the various logos through the years used by schools, as my team cards go back to 1971.  So I use the big red N for Nebraska until the mid-90s, where it's the red N with black "Huskers" across it.  I use the elephant through the A until a certain year for Alabama until it changed to the fancy A within a circle as it is now, etc. 



I guess my question is that if I was a Michigan fan and bought this game with my beloved 1973 Michigan team set in it, would I prefer the yellow block M or the one with the wolverine on it?  Which would seem more correct?

AC can you chime in on this?

[Anonymous Coward]

Sorry, OAM, not avoiding, but my input isn't unequivocal and I feel generally unhelpful on how this has changed through the years. 

I can confirm that the official logo is presently a naked, maize block M on a blue background. It's homogeneous establishment as a the ONLY approved logo was perhaps the only good/great thing that Dave Brandon ever did as AD.

I won't be surprised if the wolverine-on-the-M or MICHIGAN-on-the-M logos were at some point the standard/official logo but cannot help confirm that.