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Topic: 2019 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2019, 02:50:40 PM »
Y'all were pretty giddy about the Pep hire on here. Just sayin'.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2019, 02:52:51 PM »
Y'all were pretty giddy about the Pep hire on here. Just sayin'.
don't remember that. most Michigan fans on the message boards were actually pissed off when Jedd Fisch left and he got replaced with Pep Hamilton.
Pep Hamilton made Andrew Luck look mediocre in Indianapolis. Think for a second how much you have to suck to make a once in a generational talent like Andrew Luck look bad? Well, Pep did that shit. I was no fan of Pep Hamilton's ever. And I was even less of a fan of his stupid massive contract. NO ONE is knocking down his door to hire him let alone pay him $1.2+ million a year.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2019, 02:53:56 PM »
Y'all were pretty giddy about the Pep hire on here. Just sayin'.
I'm giddy about many Michigan things, but at least someone wasn't. I just can't remember who.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2019, 04:00:49 PM »
y'all pay yer assistants WAY too much $$$
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2019, 04:05:55 PM »
Gattis was a great hire and anyone saying otherwise is just talking bs.

I'd much rather have someone like Gattis get full control of the offense and call the plays vs. the weird, clunky, Pep/Harbaugh collab that has failed miserably the last 2 seasons.

Pep was fired from his last two NFL jobs. Yet Harbaugh thought it was a great move to hire him and pay him $1.2 million a year.

Saban wanted to keep Gattis. He tried to keep him. That's a fact. Even the Bama insiders have said as much. Problem is- he wasn't willing to hand over full control of the offense and pay Gattis $1.5 million a year like Harbaugh was. Gattis would've made $525,000 at Alabama this year. He's making a million dollars more this year by taking the Michigan job. Saban wasn't offering full control, he'd have to have share it with Enos and they weren't offering to up his contract by $1 million.

I give Harbaugh a lot of credit for having the balls to go outbid Saban & Maryland and take a chance on a young, up and comer. Honestly didn't think he had it in him. Just thought he'd try more of the same old bullshit with Pep & him working on their clumsy, stupid, "body blow", 10 TE set offenses.

Really didn't think Harbaugh had this in him. Might be the thing that saves his ass in the long run if it works out.
don't remember that. most Michigan fans on the message boards were actually pissed off when Jedd Fisch left and he got replaced with Pep Hamilton.
Pep Hamilton made Andrew Luck look mediocre in Indianapolis. Think for a second how much you have to suck to make a once in a generational talent like Andrew Luck look bad? Well, Pep did that shit. I was no fan of Pep Hamilton's ever. And I was even less of a fan of his stupid massive contract. NO ONE is knocking down his door to hire him let alone pay him $1.2+ million a year.
Are you OK with M paying $1.5MM for a coordinator who never truly coordinated?
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2019, 04:19:18 PM »
y'all pay yer assistants WAY too much $$$
And with all that money, there's not even that much retention of assistants for those schools. 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #104 on: January 16, 2019, 04:20:01 PM »
hey, if it takes $1.5 to keep him from going to Maryland, that's what it takes
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2019, 05:02:11 PM »
Are you OK with M paying $1.5MM for a coordinator who never truly coordinated?
Yes. I mean, it grates somewhat it the generic ways, where (a) fans complain about ticket prices or (b) hard working everyday people whine that some famous person works equally but makes 50-100x more annually. But while those emotional arguments are familiar and comforting in an Everyman kind of way, they're also terrible arguments. Because they ignore subtleties about capitalism. Or that despite atypically high assistant salaries, Michigan's ticket prices aren't growing at any different rate than they are for the rest of the P5.
Until the current landscape is proven unsustainable and crashes, that money is never going back in the bottle. And even if it were, the last to get it would be fans. So I'd rather feed it to coaches or palatial facilities than administrators. 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2019, 05:13:05 PM »
Is he really getting full control of the "bus"? As in, he gets to shape his own staff? If that's the case, they should have kicked the tires on Canada. He'd be in Bloomington right now, if given full control. Wilson wouldn't do that though. 
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2019, 05:17:50 PM »
Are you OK with M paying $1.5MM for a coordinator who never truly coordinated?
Yes. He’s an up and comer. They pretty much had to overpay him to get him to leave Bama and turn down Maryland.
Much rather take a big shot on an up and comer with upside than keep around a mediocre NFL reject like Pep Hamilton’s sorry ass. Gattis at least has upside. We already know what Pep is. He’s a dogshit OC and offensive coach. We’ve known that before he ever got to Michigan. Indianapolis and Cleveland both fired him. Michigan just effectively fired him without having to publicly do so. All the insiders said months ago that Pep was told by Harbaugh to go find another job. 
With Gattis you almost have to over pay because he’s a young, hot commodity. If you don’t entice him with big $ he’d have just stayed at Bama or took the OC job at Maryland. You have to pay him or you don’t get him. 
Pep? NO ONE was trying to hire him and pay him that kind of scratch. Harbaugh only did so because Pep is his boy and he’s got a big ass piggy bank at Michigan to pay his assistants. Classic case of Harbaugh just hooking up his buddy. Happens all the time in the coaching ranks.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2019, 05:20:08 PM »
Is he really getting full control of the "bus"? As in, he gets to shape his own staff? If that's the case, they should have kicked the tires on Canada. He'd be in Bloomington right now, if given full control. Wilson wouldn't do that though.
Canada was my dream hire. He’d have been great but it’d have never worked. He’s too much like Harbaugh- just too big of an asshole. Two big time assholes like that- it’d never work.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2019, 05:28:34 PM »
Hired Arizona State's DL coach.  Dude should send a finders fee to that NT they had last year, who was a one man wrecking crew.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2019, 05:34:39 PM »

don't remember that. most Michigan fans on the message boards were actually pissed off when Jedd Fisch left and he got replaced with Pep Hamilton.
Pep Hamilton made Andrew Luck look mediocre in Indianapolis. Think for a second how much you have to suck to make a once in a generational talent like Andrew Luck look bad? Well, Pep did that shit. I was no fan of Pep Hamilton's ever. And I was even less of a fan of his stupid massive contract. NO ONE is knocking down his door to hire him let alone pay him $1.2+ million a year.
I recall, maybe not giddiness, but some excitement about a steady pro-style hand. The thing about the Luck stuff is you could've credited the first two years to Pep and written the last one off as injuries at the time. 
Granted I feel like Michigan often has the most extremity of overall program buildup on this site, but it's also had the most ups/downs/dissatisfaction with pretty good owing to the OSU thing. 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2019, 05:41:13 PM »
I wonder if Jaybaugh is going to keep his job. 
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