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Topic: 2019 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #252 on: April 15, 2019, 05:02:29 PM »
Tempo and not necessarily simplicity- but not trying to do too much matters a hell of a lot in college. Look at Oregon under Chip Kelly. That was an offensive machine and they went fast and didn't try to do too much.
I was going to mention tempo... One of the things that Kelly always talked about is that not only did they play fast, they practiced fast. That way they got more reps in practice than other teams did. 
I think they also tried not to disrupt practices as much. A lot of coaches want to fix something RIGHT THEN, and stop practice to do it. Kelly would IIRC try to run practice non-stop and then go over what needed to change in film study, which I think doesn't count as practice time so it wasn't part of the restrictions on how much time you can practice. 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #253 on: April 15, 2019, 07:15:48 PM »
Kelly would IIRC try to run practice non-stop and then go over what needed to change in film study, which I think doesn't count as practice time so it wasn't part of the restrictions on how much time you can practice.
I believe that is incorrect. I think scheduled film study with coaches and also scheduled chalk talk with coaches counts as practice time. During fall camp Michigan has these infamous 4 hour practices and makes it work (re: the limit on allowable camp hours) by 100% cutting out chalk talk and organized film study from the days with 4 hour practices. On those days, if given 4 structured hours, Harbaugh spends all those seconds on the field. 

Everyone has a different system.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #254 on: April 15, 2019, 09:22:46 PM »
I believe that is incorrect. I think scheduled film study with coaches and also scheduled chalk talk with coaches counts as practice time. During fall camp Michigan has these infamous 4 hour practices and makes it work (re: the limit on allowable camp hours) by 100% cutting out chalk talk and organized film study from the days with 4 hour practices. On those days, if given 4 structured hours, Harbaugh spends all those seconds on the field.

Everyone has a different system.
Yeah, you're probably right. Maybe they only were on-field for 90 minutes of their allotted practice session and the idea was to get as many reps in those 90 minutes and then review them in the film room. But that they really tried to avoid stalling practices for on-field instruction unless absolutely necessary, so they didn't have 40 people standing around while one player was getting chewed out.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #255 on: April 16, 2019, 11:11:23 AM »
FWIW, I think the question remains open. I just am skeptical. I suppose I could actually visit the rule book.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #256 on: April 30, 2019, 11:33:17 AM »
Michigan's offense last year was absolutely murder to watch.  I frequently found myself yelling, "Move!" at my TV to encourage them to get up to the line of scrimmage sooner.  So any increase in tempo is welcome.  Play selection at times was baffling.  I remember one game where they ran a Higdon draw on 5 or six first downs in a row, with a max gain of like 2 yards.  So, if Gattis shakes it up that's great.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #257 on: April 30, 2019, 01:11:18 PM »
That's right. An offense designed to go fast can always slow down. They have more access to the full sliding scale. But last year we saw an offense that seemed structurally insistent on a full huddle per play and could not speed up.

I welcome the flexibility. Also: although "hurry up and wait" kills a lot of entertainment for fans, until the rules change, it is a superior strategy in that it limits defensive shift changes - giving the potential to lock tired players or mismatches on the field - and brings other benefits in terms of a full clock to read the defense and maximize the chances you are properly adapting, including time for the coaches to change signals. This isn't to argue that Michigan wasn't reading the defense last year, just to note that they were bad at it, too often appeared rushed, and that the impetus seemed almost solely on the players as they were characteristically frantic to snap the ball before the play clock expired.

Even at the bottom of the barrel, these are promising changes.
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #258 on: April 30, 2019, 02:27:54 PM »
Moving forward good stuff for the Maize & Blue faithful.Just don't get too creative the last week end of Novenber
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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #259 on: May 04, 2019, 01:15:09 PM »
Brandon Peters transferring

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #260 on: May 04, 2019, 04:45:17 PM »
"They ran a Higdon draw on 5 or six first downs in a row"

I will bet $5 that is not a thing that happened, if only because what we call a draw ends up being a catch-all for every zone run out of the gun and some gap runs.

But that reminded me, this is a video that if you watch with a keen eye is very informative. Just getting to see where creases formed, how much numbers matter on calls and when a key broken tackle or two was a killer. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb0RDZy7zLg

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #261 on: May 04, 2019, 11:26:42 PM »
Met Chase Winovich at a charity event tonight, really, really nice kid.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #262 on: May 06, 2019, 02:13:49 PM »
Brandon Peters transferring
surprised it didn't happen sooner. McCaffrey jumped him last year to be QB 2 and there were points in the games where they put in the true frosh Milton before Peters.

Kinda shocked that Peters didn't work out. My guess is he transfers home to Purdue and kills it under Brohm.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #263 on: May 06, 2019, 02:14:26 PM »
Met Chase Winovich at a charity event tonight, really, really nice kid.
perfect fit for the Patriots. He just might wind up having a better career than lots of guys that were picked way before him.

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #264 on: May 06, 2019, 04:15:42 PM »
perfect fit for the Patriots. He just might wind up having a better career than lots of guys that were picked way before him.
Told my extreme Patriots Fan wife when they pick him that I hated the pick. She asked why, isn't he that good? I said no because he will fit in great with the Patriots. 

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Re: 2019 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #265 on: May 06, 2019, 05:52:15 PM »
surprised it didn't happen sooner. McCaffrey jumped him last year to be QB 2 and there were points in the games where they put in the true frosh Milton before Peters.

Kinda shocked that Peters didn't work out. My guess is he transfers home to Purdue and kills it under Brohm.
Doubt it. Purdue's QB room is crowded as it is. 

While Peters is obviously very talented, is it expected he can come in on day 1 and unseat Elijah Sindelar? Both have 2 years eligibility remaining, and while I think Sindelar wants to be in the NFL in 2020, there are 3 good QB recruits behind him already.

So Peters would have to be thinking that he can beat out Sindelar in 2019, or hope Sindelar does so well he goes to the pros in 2020 and that his natural ability will put him ahead of Purdue's 3 very good underclassmen, two of which were hand-picked by Brohm in recruiting.

 

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