2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread

[RestingB!tchFace]

TV Teddy?


Ted Valentine(?) I think?

Not the one I am thinking of.  But he's kind of obnoxious too. 

[RestingB!tchFace]

There are no conference affiliations for basketball refs

Are you saying that there are not Big Ten officiating crews?  I don't think that is accurate.

[Kris60]

Are you saying that there are not Big Ten officiating crews?  I don't think that is accurate.

You might see a lot of the same faces but, no, there aren’t Big Ten officiating crews in basketball.  Or any other league for that matter.

[Hawkeye0111]

Were you thinking of Ed Hightower?  He retired in 2013.

[ELA]

Are you saying that there are not Big Ten officiating crews?  I don't think that is accurate.

It's not like football.  Refs don't have conference affiliations in basketball.

Honestly, that's how it should be.  For optics if nothing else.  IMO, basketball refs are consistently terrible in terms of getting bullied by home crowds, so at least it sort of evens out.

[bayareabadger]

It's not like football.  Refs don't have conference affiliations in basketball.

Honestly, that's how it should be.  For optics if nothing else.  IMO, basketball refs are consistently terrible in terms of getting bullied by home crowds, so at least it sort of evens out.

Wasn’t the thing with TV teddy that he emphatically wasn’t bullied by home crowds?

also, bless Purdue for almost hurting my faith in metrics but then renewing it.

[MaximumSam]

Despondent OSU fans Bart Torvik Ranking for 2020 games only

1. MSU (2)
2. Wisconsin (12)
3. Illinois (15)
4. Rutgers (19)
5. Maryland (24)
6. Iowa (42)
7. Minnesota (43)
8. Indiana (48)
9. Michigan (55)
10. Northwestern (68)
11. Penn State (72)
12. OSU (92)
13. Purdue (112)
14. Nebraska (132)

With Purdue nuking MSU your new bottom two are OSU and Nebraska.  Who face off tomorrow.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Sagarin Update:



The Purdue win boosted Purdue by 3.33 points, from 83.11 to 86.44. That slid them from somewhere in the 40s in Sagarin into #20.

It knocked the shine off MSU by 4.20 points, from 92.08 to 87.88. MSU is now outside the top 10 in Sagarin at 13th. 

MSU dropped from a projected 19-1 to 14-6. And bringing MSU within reach of some of these other teams means that the middle is pretty crazy, with 8 teams projected at either 12-8 or 11-9. 

Road wins and protecting home court are going to be the difference-makers IMHO. 

(Note: I don't have a good way to track upsets for everyone, so while I know as a Purdue fan that Purdue is one game behind this projection due to the loss at Nebraska, I don't know where everyone else is.)

[ELA]

Illinois moves in to the AP Poll at #24.  First ranking for the Illini since December 1, 2014, when they lost to Miami, and immediately fell back out.

Illinois hasn't been ranked in February or March since March 2, 2009.

[847badgerfan]

Underwood can coach. I just wonder about any dirt under his fingernails with the FBI thing at oSu.

[medinabuckeye1]

Update to the tiers:

First, I dropped tOSU and Michigan to tier-2 from tier-1.  It makes sense for both because both were 0-2 in road games against tier-3 teams.  

New tiers:

• MSU, UMD
• M, tOSU, PSU, IA, PU
• RU, IL, UW, IU, MN
• blank
• UNL, NU

Here are the updated projections:


The projected final standings/BTT seeds are:

• 16-4 Michigan State (wins tiebreaker with UMD based on record against the four 11-9 teams)
• 16-4 Maryland
• 12-8 Michigan
• 11-9 Iowa (3-2 in H2H2H2H with PU, tOSU, and PSU)
• 11-9 Purdue (behind IA, ahead of PSU in H2H2H2H, 2-2, wins subsidary tiebreaker with tOSU based on record against MSU and UMD)
• 11-9 Ohio State (behind IA, ahead of PSU in H2H2H2H, 2-2)
• 11-9 Penn State (2-3 in H2H2H2H with Iowa, PU, and tOSU)
• 10-10 Wisconsin (wins tiebreaker with RU and IL based on H2H2H, 2-1)
• 10-10 Rutgers (second in tiebreaker with UW and IL based on H2H2H, 2-2)
• 10-10 Illinois
• 9-11 Minnesota (wins tiebreaker over IU based on record against Michigan)
• 9-11 Indiana
• 3-17 Nebraska
• 1-19 Northwestern

Thus, the BTT match-ups would be:
Wednesday, March 11, 2020:

• #11 Minnesota vs #14 Northwestern, 9:30pm, BTN
• #12 Indiana vs #13 Nebraska, 6pm, BTN

Thursday, March 12, 2020:

• #5 Purdue vs IU/UNL, 2:30pm, BTN
• #6 Ohio State vs MN/NU, 9pm, BTN
• #7 Penn State vs #10 Illinois, 6:30pm, BTN
• #8 Wisconsin vs #9 Rutgers, noon, BTN

Friday, March 13, 2020:

• #1 Michigan State vs UW/RU, noon, BTN
• #2 Maryland vs PSU/IL, 6:30pm, BTN
• #3 Michigan vs tOSU/MN/NU, 9pm, BTN
• #4 Iowa vs PU/IU/UNL, 2:30pm, BTN

Saturday, March 14, 2020:

• MSU/UW/RU vs IA/PU/IU/UNL, 1pm, CBS
• UMD/PSU/IL vs M/tOSU/MN/NU, 3:30pm, CBS

Sunday, March 15, 2020:

• MSU/UW/RU/IA/PU/IU/UNL vs UMD/PSU/IL/M/tOSU/MN/NU, 3:30pm, CBS

[medinabuckeye1]

Note that the projections are EXTREMELY fluid due to there being only three games separating #3 Michigan all the way down through #11/12 IU/MN in the projections. 

Also, with the update all teams are within +/-1 except Nebraska (+2).  They have two upset wins at home (PU, IA) but they also just lost at Northwestern so I'm not ready to move them up.  Here are the upsets so far:

Teams are:

• +2 UNL
• +1 IL, UW (+2, -1)
• even UMD, MSU, M, RU, IU, MN, NU
• -1 tOSU, PSU, IA, PU

[betarhoalphadelta]

Also, with the update all teams are within +/-1 except Nebraska (+2).  They have two upset wins at home (PU, IA) but they also just lost at Northwestern so I'm not ready to move them up.  Here are the upsets so far:

Teams are:

• +2 UNL
• +1 IL, UW (+2, -1)
• even UMD, MSU, M, RU, IU, MN, NU
• -1 tOSU, PSU, IA, PU

Yeah, and moving Nebraska up to tier 4 doesn't help them. They'd only be +1 (+2, -1) as their wins over Iowa and Purdue are still two tiers apart, but then they'd have a home loss to tier 3 Rutgers which would be a negative upset. 

[medinabuckeye1]

Yeah, and moving Nebraska up to tier 4 doesn't help them. They'd only be +1 (+2, -1) as their wins over Iowa and Purdue are still two tiers apart, but then they'd have a home loss to tier 3 Rutgers which would be a negative upset.

I came to the same conclusion for Nebraska . . . so far.  The difference between tier-5 (where they are now) and tier-4 (the blank tier we *COULD* move them up to) is the projected result in home games against the tier-3 teams.  For Nebraska those are:

• Rutgers:  Lost
• Illinois:  Not played
• Minnesota:  Not played
• Indiana:  1/18
• Wisconsin:  2/15

If they beat Indiana on Saturday then I think we should move them up because it would be the same number of upsets either way and they'd be +3 in tier-5 but only +1 in tier-4.  If they lose at home to Indiana this week then I think they are stuck in the bottom tier with Northwestern.