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bayareabadger

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #224 on: May 22, 2019, 09:17:17 PM »
In much less prominent B1G hires today, Iowa hired Billy Taylor from his position as head coach at Division II Belmont Abbey College for the open assistant job.  He has prior experience as the head coach at Lehigh (with NCAA tournament appearance) and at Ball State, as well as being the video coordinator at Iowa for several years under McCaffery.

All three Iowa assistant coaches now have prior head coaching experience at lower levels with at least once conference championship.  The amount of experience on the staff is at least interesting.
They hired him BACK?

He was kinda so-so at Lehigh and really uninspiring at Ball State. He got canned and had whatever that role was at Iowa. 

He seemed to do a good job at Belmont Abbey. Weird that only gets a callback to Iowa. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #225 on: May 22, 2019, 09:56:38 PM »
Based on the move, I am assuming that the 3rd assistant job at Iowa pays better than head coach at Belmont Abbey.  He was actually the director of basketball operations at Iowa in his prior stint.  Taylor and McCaffery have a long standing relationship all the way back to when Taylor was recruited to Notre Dame.

The general presumption is that Andrew Francis moved on to Cal due a perceived lack of upward mobility in the Iowa assistant ranks given that Speraw and Dillard both seem to want to keep coaching but neither seems likely to get called up to a better gig.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #226 on: May 23, 2019, 01:32:29 AM »
Good podcast on UMHoops about the hiring of Howard. They echo my concerns about hiring assistants who understand the college game and have been part of successful teams (be it the current assistants at Michigan or elsewhere). It does appear that Yaklich is going to Texas, unfortunately.

Hopefully that'll be taken care of quickly, because Michigan has 3 open scholarships. It sounds like Jalen Wilson could recommit, though that's far from certain. Unless Franz Wagner will still consider Michigan, I'm not sure any of the other remaining uncommitted recruits are viable options. Hyland is still available, but supposedly he might not be on track to graduate this year due to missing time in the aftermath of the tragic housefire he went through last year. Likewise, Howard's cousin just committed to Washington, though apparently he hasn't officially signed.... Otherwise, they should go after the best graduate transfers that they can get. Jaevin Cumberland is still uncommitted, and there are a few other decent ones left if the barttorvik site is accurate.... Then focus on 2020 after finalizing next year's roster, where there will still be at least 2 openings to replace Simpson, Teske, and Davis (no way he gets or even wants a 5th year at Michigan after next season) + however many grad transfers are taken this year (fortunately 2020 recruit Zeb Jackson has already reaffirmed his commitment).

The bigger questions are how the team will play, especially on offense. For the most part I liked Beilein's style, which emphasized minimizing turnovers, good transition defense over offensive rebounding, having a high defensive rebounding percentage, playing with at least 4 decent shooters and/or drivers at all times, getting open shots/drives and avoiding fouls..... All else equal, I would like to see the team play at a somewhat higher tempo, be more effective in transition, try to draw more fouls, and even force more turnovers, but there are usually trade-offs to those approaches, as well..... Michigan has also generally played starters more heavily than most teams for better or worse.

It is encouraging to know that Miami apparently had one of the more modern offenses in the NBA, though supposedly it was executed inconsistently, and perhaps that was a personnel issue, since their roster includes a number of players who I don't recall being that skilled during their college years, with Duncan Robinson being one of their best shooters, but he wasn't getting major minutes, of course, due to his other shortcomings.
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #227 on: May 23, 2019, 10:35:14 AM »

Put another way: In May these were the three tiers available:

Unrealistic NBA home runs.
High variance unknowns.
Low variance mediocres.

When the top lane closes, you pick the middle every day if you know what's good for you.


So so where does Yaklich fit into those parameters? He wasn’t an unknown. For all the praise Michigan fans had for him he didn’t sound like a low variance hire.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #228 on: May 23, 2019, 12:31:30 PM »

So so where does Yaklich fit into those parameters? He wasn’t an unknown. For all the praise Michigan fans had for him he didn’t sound like a low variance hire.
Anyone who's never been a HC should probably be called high variance. And by not knowing how that group will perform as HCs, technically unknown. There's a sliding scale here, of course. Some high variance picks are more appealing (better bets) than others. Juwan and Luke are lined up along the more appealing edge of that middle category.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #229 on: May 23, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »
“Here’s what I said it’s simple you can’t hand the keys to a job that you told me was a top ten job in this country and at a minimum as a top 20 job in this country you can’t turn the keys over to someone who’s never coached a game in their life! Never coached a college and never coached a pro game and when Eric Spoelstra was suspended Juwan Howard did not coach for that team. The second-in-command in Miami did. Juwan Howard has never recruited. Juwan Howard has never fundraiser, has never been the CEO of a college program. John Beilein was objectively one of the top 10 to 15 best coaches in college basketball. You’re going from that to this and the only defense you have is but, but, but he played here. Nobody cares. This absolutely to me is a dud of a hire.”

Mike Valenti 97.1 The Ticket


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKdP9eeGWk
Anytime someone says “This is a top such and such job, I kinda roll my eyes.”

By the end, Beilein was awesome, but as Ananomoys Coward said, he was pretty uninspiring for four or so seasons, and after the first batch of runs, lost 29 games in two seasons and started the next 14-9 (4-6 conference). He was dogged by complaints about style for a long time. He had a resume that would have retroactive holes poked in it had he failed.

Basically, at the time of his hiring, it wasn’t supremely unlikely he’d be seen the way he is now, and his style (high road and not descneidnf onto the muck in Detroit or Chicago) is probably an outlier.

Basically, I think the quality of the job isn’t to a degree overstated becuase the only non-cheating success in a LONG time isn’t because of a guy whose style wasn’t baked into the program itself. Howard is a gamble like anything else, same as a low-defense guy who wouldn’t get into the dirt and missed the dance three times in five years  seasons at WVU.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #230 on: May 23, 2019, 04:37:07 PM »
Will Howard be paid more as a coach than he was as a player? 

Sorry but that still just irritates me because the well paid five knocked my Buckeyes out of the NCAA Tournament that year and yeah, I'm not over it. 

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #231 on: May 23, 2019, 05:43:59 PM »
Will Howard be paid more as a coach than he was as a player? 

Sorry but that still just irritates me because the well paid five knocked my Buckeyes out of the NCAA Tournament that year and yeah, I'm not over it. 
Despite the perceptions around the recruiting class, and strong evidence against a guy like Chris , Juwan was never implicated.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #232 on: May 23, 2019, 05:50:02 PM »
The "perceptions" went back much farther.

Just like MSU football's academic issues didn't suddenly pop up at the end of Perles' tenure.

It was fairly common knowledge throughout Michigan media during the 80s that Michigan basketball players were getting paid, and MSU football players weren't going to class, but were "enhancing" themselves.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #233 on: May 23, 2019, 05:54:08 PM »
I know this isn't what you meant, but Howard apparently was the first NBA player with a $100M+ contract so that's probably part of the reason he was willing to take the job with a starting salary of $2M. The optics of his Fab Five association aren't good if you want to question his ethics, especially compared to Beilein, but it was moreso Webber and the top recruits from the mid 90s (eg. Traylor) that were the primary recipients of Ed Martin's money.... I'm somewhat concerned to be sure, but unless/until he hires someone from one of the programs that has been caught up in the FBI scandal or otherwise has questionable AAU connections, I won't complain. If he's smart, he'll be sure to avoid that....
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #234 on: May 23, 2019, 06:01:55 PM »
I know this isn't what you meant, but Howard apparently was the first NBA player with a $100M+ contract so that's probably part of the reason he was willing to take the job with a starting salary of $2M. The optics of his Fab Five association aren't good if you want to question his ethics, especially compared to Beilein, but it was moreso Webber and the top recruits from the mid 90s (eg. Traylor) that were the primary recipients of Ed Martin's money.... I'm somewhat concerned to be sure, but unless/until he hires someone from one of the programs that has been caught up in the FBI scandal or otherwise has questionable AAU connections, I won't complain. If he's smart, he'll be sure to avoid that....
I think it's more optics than an actual concern he would cheat.

It's like MSU football hiring Tony Mandarich as S&C coach

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #235 on: May 23, 2019, 10:20:03 PM »
It sounds like Yaklich is at least still considering staying at Michigan. This exchange is pretty funny (Amy is his wife):


https://twitter.com/mrsamyyak/status/1131636894125744129
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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #236 on: May 23, 2019, 11:59:52 PM »
I'm surprised there hasn't been any chatter about head coaching jobs with him.

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Re: 2019-2020 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #237 on: May 24, 2019, 01:20:13 AM »
I think it's more optics than an actual concern he would cheat.

It's like MSU football hiring Tony Mandarich as S&C coach
Isn't it more like hiring Mandarich's roommate to S&C? Hiring Mandarich would be more like hiring Webber.

 

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