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Topic: 2018 Season Stream of Completely Off-Topic Unconsciousness

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Cincydawg

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1134 on: August 23, 2018, 05:03:52 PM »
The wife and I took a fairly long walk south along Peachtree today.  We had not gone that far before except one night walking back from the Fox.  It was pretty interesting, a LOT of people on these scooter that scoot.

A lot of folks out walking and not much traffic relatively speaking.  It was a nice day, low humidity and about 85°F.

We had lunch at a place called "Chick-Fil-A", pretty good samwich.  They have a lot of them down heah.

The tallest building in the ATL is in midtown, not downtown, and we walked by it, fairly impressive lower structures.

We walked near the Varsity but not to it, I've taken the wife there a few years back, she was amused.  The food isn't really that good but they just had their 90th birthday celebration.  What'll you have?

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1135 on: August 23, 2018, 08:13:38 PM »
The only SEC atmosphere I noticed in Nashville for our board meeting there were the many SEC guys/gals actually at the board meeting.
That and this one screaming banshee Bama chick in the bar we hung out in. I think @MikeDeTiger was ready to kill her, had we not all been looking at him.
That was an elite sports bar.  

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1136 on: August 23, 2018, 09:12:30 PM »
That was an elite sports bar.  
Best one I've ever been too. Of course, I'm sure the company helped.
Probably the largest bar tab I've ever paid. Like, Ever.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1137 on: August 23, 2018, 10:39:32 PM »
and I didn't get in on that tab

regrettable and only myself to blame
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1138 on: August 23, 2018, 11:34:40 PM »
The only SEC atmosphere I noticed in Nashville for our board meeting there were the many SEC guys/gals actually at the board meeting.
That and this one screaming banshee Bama chick in the bar we hung out in. I think @MikeDeTiger was ready to kill her, had we not all been looking at him.
I was in Nashville last December. GF did her masters at Vandy, so we took a long weekend there to let her take a trip down Memory Ln, as well as partake in some fun stuff in town. 
Sadly, I couldn't find the bar where all of our drinking and debauchery took place at. It wouldn't surprise me if the building had been sold and redeveloped, as there was a lot of new construction in the area. Google Maps has a Sam's Place in the vicinity, but it is on the wrong side of the street and doesn't have the big overhead door in front.
On an aside, has it really been TEN YEARS since that meeting? Good grief.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1139 on: August 24, 2018, 01:04:07 AM »
GR, I think you are right that it isn't there anymore, but I think you are off on the locale.  I recall it being very close to the Pancake Pantry  on 21st ave. (one of those places that's always crowded because everyone thinks its great (it's not that special).  I remember we were cracking wise about people waiting hours for pancakes (and ok grits).   I think I see the block it was on, and yes, it looks like it has been redeveloped.   

Their TV management was how every place that aims to be a sports bar needs to be.  Sets were marked for what they were going to air, and even had a TV or two that said 'Need a different game, just ask?' . I remember in the main bar area away from the section we took over, they had a big chalkboard with all the games and the station they were on so the staff didn't have to ask (ESPN U, what station is that?) The staff was awesome.

I think of that place everytime I'm in that position at a bar.  I worked my ass off and bribed the bartender @ USC bar in LA last fall to get Big Ten games on, including navigating N v NW, OSU v iowa, with the delays at the Penn St. game blowing up the guide.  The worst places, 15 TVs or whatever, and 12 of them are on one game.  Or, neglect ensues, and some game ends, and they tolerate local news, or Access Hollywood to stay on indefinitely.

Nashville is a fun place.  Music City Bowl was another fun trip I had there.  It is definitely the most un-SEC atmosphere in the conference, and I've been to 10 of the campuses for games.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1140 on: August 24, 2018, 05:13:24 AM »
Ten out of 14 is really a good sampling.  I've been to four.

Well, five counting Vandy as I was on campus during game day.  Bring on Bama.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1141 on: August 24, 2018, 07:00:57 AM »
Yeah, MH has the locale correct. I thought I found the place when I was last there - it was a bit different looking though.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1142 on: August 24, 2018, 07:47:38 AM »
Another very nice day here, high in the mid80s, low in the 60s.  The wife is going to think summers are always like this around here.

They are not.

We have family coming to visit early September, one lady from Brazil included.  It will be a bit hectic.  The wife wanted to go to Brazil in November and the tickets were $1700 each.  Yuck.  I reminded her that was football season.


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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1143 on: August 24, 2018, 10:11:59 AM »
Was watching an old UW-MSU game. 

Man, Jerel Worthy was a beast. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1144 on: August 24, 2018, 10:18:25 AM »
Was watching an old UW-MSU game.

Man, Jerel Worthy was a beast.
Was actually just talking about him the other day, because he signed with an NFL team, and I was surprised he was still bouncing around the league.  He was actually on the Bills active roster from mid-2015 until they cut him mid-2017, which surprised me.  Thought he'd be a better pro.
But that led us to another discussion, about how the discussion is always that Michigan gets better recruits, but Dantonio is a better developer of talent; and in basketball how Izzo gets better recruits, but Beilein is a better developer of talent.  I think if Dantonio and Beilein were great developers of talent, you'd see them producing better pros.  But none of Beileins unheralded recruits have done jack in the NBA, and of all of Dantonio's 2* guys, the only ones who have produced in the NFL are Bell and Cousins.  Granted those two are producing at a very high level, but on the whole, I think the point stands.
What I think that means is that Dantonio and Beilein are great talent maximizers.  They can get the most out of underrecruited kids, and win big with less talent than comparable programs.  But I'm not sure the "developer" tag is accurate, because in that case I think you'd see their players produce more at the next level.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1145 on: August 24, 2018, 10:27:19 AM »
I think intelligence of the player is a large factor here for most positions.  The smarter kid is going to benefit more from coaching and likely be more motivated.  My guess is the over achievers by and large have been smarter kids, versus talented but less smart kids who don't believe they won't make the League on talent alone.

Even at RB, the ability to pass block is important in CFB and the NFL.


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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1146 on: August 24, 2018, 01:36:41 PM »
What I think that means is that Dantonio and Beilein are great talent maximizers.  They can get the most out of underrecruited kids, and win big with less talent than comparable programs.  But I'm not sure the "developer" tag is accurate, because in that case I think you'd see their players produce more at the next level.
Well, yes and no. To maximize the talent, you have to develop it. Very few of these 2* players are coming in ready to dominate the B1G. It requires improving their skills, improving their understanding of their role in a scheme, and improving their bodies.
Only issue is that once you've done that, they're *still* at a severe talent differential compared to the players that stick in the NFL or NBA. If you take those players, with their talent, and give them the same skills & understanding level of the Dantonio/Beilein lesser talent players, they're still going to have an edge.
There are ~60 P5 teams, with 85 scholarship players each. Given 1/4 turnover each year, that's 1275 players available each year, not counting G5 or FCS. 
Only 224 players each year are drafted, and often those in the later rounds don't even stick as they're headed to a league of 32 teams with only 53 man rosters. 
Similar issue with basketball, but probably worse due to players from overseas, and that there's more competition with Big East and other mid-major leagues that don't have as much talent dropoff as the difference between P5 and G5 in football.
Dantonio or Beilein [or Painter, who I think is in the same "do more with less" category] should be lauded for winning with what they have. But you shouldn't knock them for not having players who do more at the next level.
Talent still dominates, when you get into the rarefied air of the next level. 

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #1147 on: August 24, 2018, 03:14:12 PM »
developing players is critical

but, as one wise old coach said, "ya can't make horses outta horse shit"

gotta have some talent to start with
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