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Topic: 2018 Season Stream of Completely Off-Topic Unconsciousness

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #953 on: July 24, 2018, 07:23:36 PM »
people aren't anymore intelligent today than they were centuries ago

and unfortunately, they are still motivated by the same old things
But we know so much more.  Your average 10 year old knows more about how everything works than Plato or Capernicus, or Newton.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #954 on: July 24, 2018, 07:24:47 PM »
I saw the one with the banner more growing up, but one of (the only?) thing Dave Brandon did that UM fans like was to streamline to logo for brand purposes.  They only use the plain block M now of officially licensed gear I believe.  They also fixed the scoreboards on the stadium accordingly (see below).  If the university can control it, the banner is gone...
OLD vs. NEW
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This just makes me want to put a macaroni on each Michigan card.  I sent out the '97 Wolverines team set out for playtesting already, but I'll stick to the yellow M going forward.  
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #955 on: July 24, 2018, 07:32:20 PM »
What did HDTV beat out?  There were 2 potentials, but HD won.  I forget the one that lost.
Are you thinking of the HD-DVD vs Blu Ray battle that Blu Ray won?

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #956 on: July 24, 2018, 07:33:30 PM »
Are you thinking of the HD-DVD vs Blu Ray battle that Blu Ray won?
Maybe...just after I posted I realized I may have been thinking about mini discs losing out to DVDs?  Who knows.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #957 on: July 24, 2018, 07:47:27 PM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #958 on: July 24, 2018, 07:48:58 PM »
Trayvon Walker, boom.
We gots a thread for that sh.. stuff.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #959 on: July 24, 2018, 09:08:27 PM »
I enjoyed GTs stadiette.   I think it is the oldest in use, no?

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #960 on: July 24, 2018, 10:24:18 PM »
But we know so much more.  Your average 10 year old knows more about how everything works than Plato or Capernicus, or Newton.  
true, but my point is the average 10 year old with all the advances in civilization isn't nearly as intelligent as any of the 3 mentioned
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #961 on: July 24, 2018, 10:39:21 PM »
What use is intelligence if surpassed by another's knowledge?  

You're probably mostly right, but over time, with more and more people living longer with high-calorie diets, our intelligence level is likely, very slowly, inching up.  And if not the average, then certainly the highest levels.  The smartest person out of 7 billion is probably very much smarter than the smartest of 1 billion.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #962 on: July 24, 2018, 10:53:01 PM »
... Except those 1B were alive for a reason, and where likely 6.5B of 7B of us couldn't live then if somehow transplanted.. Taking interest in intelligence being directly related to environment, those 1B were survivors of the fittest where we live lavishly and stroll to the markets after sitting in conditioned air and drinking exotic coffees calling it work... 

Things are relative, man .

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #963 on: July 24, 2018, 10:54:47 PM »
 The smartest person out of 7 billion is probably very much smarter than the smartest of 1 billion.
probably
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #964 on: July 24, 2018, 11:29:49 PM »
What use is intelligence if surpassed by another's knowledge?  

You're probably mostly right, but over time, with more and more people living longer with high-calorie diets, our intelligence level is likely, very slowly, inching up.  And if not the average, then certainly the highest levels.  The smartest person out of 7 billion is probably very much smarter than the smartest of 1 billion.
I think intelligence is about the capacity to process ideas originally. It's separate from knowledge. School does a good job of inputting knowledge. No doubt, we are far more knowledgeable than the Greeks. But because modern education is still designed to reward rote rule following above all else, I'm not convinced it furthers intelligence more than a smidge - and maybe not even that.
Wisdom, a very separate third thing, is in simplest terms the ability to be maximally correct. But this kind isn't about being a know-it-all but about being the opposite - for one to be humble enough to admit literally **everything** he doesn't know, which depending on the conversation could happen - maybe - always. (Making wisdom one of the rarest commodities around - the only classic example I can even think of are the Platonic dialogues...whose words were Socrates's? Eh it's not clear to me.)
In all, I'd say that all of us are just superchimpanzees. Just as we've been throughout the last 200,000+ years of hominid evolution. We're always consumed by the noise, anxious about death; self-absorbed; we grab our junk and that's a life. It's my belief that ever so rarely, an Aristotle, Kant or Bohr arrives with the gift to dampen his noise to realize that our representation of reality is not reality itself - that what we perceive through our eyes or hands are just useful hallucinations or shadows of what the universe's objects actually are. It's seems like a small thing. But to become and stay that self-aware. So daunting.
It's super fruitful though. Those guys' intelligence ultimately fuels our revolutions in knowledge. But being born after Einstein and reading his papers enables very-very-very few to stand on his shoulders. Because reading special relativity isn't 1-for-1 with understanding it like Alfred did. Even today, some physicists argue that fewer than five of their colleagues worldwide understand it instinctively.
A great question to any of the 6 billion alive today (and their innumerable ancestors) is this: So we got those aforementioned guys and Tesla and Hume and Emerson and Rumi and however many dozens of names you care to add to your list. Each, orders of magnitude more clear-headed than a superchimpanzee. (...) Why so few?
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #965 on: July 25, 2018, 12:24:51 AM »
Well not to get political....

there's been far more "geniuses" than have been identified.  X% were born into 3rd-world country life, on the edge of life and death.  X% were aborted.  X% had to raise their siblings and got menial work in the system, living paycheck to paycheck without the luxury of downtime to wonder.  X% found the allure of $$$ on Wall St. and were content with fancy cars and trophy wives.

For someone with the predisposition of advancing the rest of us with an idea, and that person avoiding the obstacles and roadblocks our cultures and civilizations have created, I doubt we'll ever find ourselves with a major cluster of these special minds.
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