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Topic: 2018 Season Stream of Completely Off-Topic Unconsciousness

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FearlessF

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #560 on: May 21, 2018, 09:55:16 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on May 21, 2018, 09:52:05 PM
A lot of this can be attributed to momentum.
agreed, nothing to do with it bein a bowl game or championship game or game prep the week prior or lack of motivation because of the perception of the opponent or having year long goals taken away
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #561 on: May 21, 2018, 10:41:35 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 21, 2018, 09:47:43 PM
and sometimes the entire team takes the game seriously and simply gets their butts kicked

I suppose every time a team fails to perform up to their maximum, win or lose, there's a reason or an excuse

when the Huskers were run by 39 vs the Badgers in 2012 there had to be a reason

in 2014 when the Buckeyes went 59-0 over the Badgers there had to be a reason

2017 the Hawkeyes put 55 on the Buckeyes there had to be a reason
As I've already said, upsets exist on a bell curve, but why would we study everything else and just shrug on this thing and chalk it up to "just because"??  
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #562 on: May 21, 2018, 10:58:15 PM »
study all the psychology you like

scoreboard simply states the better team won

were the Hawkeyes 31 points better than the Buckeyes last season?  yup

psychology, motivation, blocking, tackling, turnovers, preparation and many other things are all part of the game

UCF was better than Auburn - heck the pollsters even agreed in the final poll

I understand Auburn fans not wanting to swallow that pill.  They can sugar coat the pill if they want, but they swallowed it.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #563 on: May 22, 2018, 12:55:22 AM »
Auburn beats UCF 3 out of 4 times as a 9.5 point favorite:

http://www.bettingtalk.com/win-probability-percentage-point-spread-nfl-nba/

Kudos to Frost and company for pulling it out.  Good on them.  But it was an upset and they weren't better.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #564 on: May 22, 2018, 06:59:30 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 22, 2018, 12:55:22 AM
Auburn beats UCF 3 out of 4 times as a 9.5 point favorite:

http://www.bettingtalk.com/win-probability-percentage-point-spread-nfl-nba/

Kudos to Frost and company for pulling it out.  Good on them.  But it was an upset and they weren't better.
S&P+ (which outperformed Vegas) has UCF as the better team
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #565 on: May 22, 2018, 08:38:48 AM »
I think UCF had a very good team, as I said earlier.  It is not a shock when a very good team edges another very good team.  I also think bowl games more often yield upsets, in part because of poor prep.
Florida beat a very good OSU team back when in part due to preparation, or lack thereof.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #566 on: May 22, 2018, 10:34:06 AM »
In case there was/is any doubt that football rules the roost in college athletics:



The Kansas President whacked his AD.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #567 on: May 22, 2018, 11:08:00 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
In case there was/is any doubt that football rules the roost in college athletics:



The Kansas President whacked his AD.
Unless there's more coming with the Adidas-basketball payment issues
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #568 on: May 22, 2018, 11:39:16 AM »
In that case, he should have whacked Self too. Right?

If KU football was cheating, they really sucked at it.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #569 on: May 22, 2018, 11:55:33 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 22, 2018, 11:39:16 AM
In that case, he should have whacked Self too. Right?
hah, the goose that lays golden eggs?  nope, blame the AD, slap the goose on the beak and keep winning conference championships
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #570 on: May 22, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »
A firing in May makes me think it's something like that because if it was primarily based on poor football results, why not do it back in January?
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #571 on: May 22, 2018, 12:46:49 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 21, 2018, 03:06:32 PM
Why do smart people keep acting like the plural of anecdote is data???

sigh.
Because you are arguing a point of conjecture. 
And becuase the nature of arguing sports is rooted in anicdote. College football data is lumpy, and reality lumpier still, especially with so we outcomes and our inclination to find reasons to discard data points. 
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #572 on: May 22, 2018, 12:51:30 PM »
Quote from: ELA on May 22, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
A firing in May makes me think it's something like that because if it was primarily based on poor football results, why not do it back in January?
poor football recruiting results?
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #573 on: May 22, 2018, 08:57:50 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on May 22, 2018, 12:46:49 PM
Because you are arguing a point of conjecture.
And becuase the nature of arguing sports is rooted in anicdote. College football data is lumpy, and reality lumpier still, especially with so we outcomes and our inclination to find reasons to discard data points.
There's data out there, 'cept no one seems interested in it here.
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