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Topic: 2018 Season Stream of Completely Off-Topic Unconsciousness

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #546 on: May 21, 2018, 02:52:38 PM »
So why was 3-loss Auburn a 9.5 favorite vs undefeated UCF?  For fun?  

I'm dumbfounded that I have to keep harping on the (to me, obvious) idea that a team with its goals in front of it is going to be more intrinsically motivated than the one who just had their goals dashed the game before.

I'm not saying anyone mopes around or doesn't give their all in practice or that the coaches are buffoons.  I'm saying that inner fire - that carrot dangled in front of them all season - suddenly being removed matters.  Hell, if it didn't matter, then why dangle a carrot in front of the team in the first place?!?!?

If making goals is a good thing, then the failure to meet them is going to cause a negative reaction.  No, not always, but sometimes.  All I'm positing is that it happens more often than the normal percentage of upsets (whatever that is).  
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #547 on: May 21, 2018, 03:05:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 21, 2018, 02:52:38 PM
I'm dumbfounded that I have to keep harping on the (to me, obvious) idea that a team with its goals in front of it is going to be more intrinsically motivated than the one who just had their goals dashed the game before.

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #548 on: May 21, 2018, 03:06:32 PM »
Why do smart people keep acting like the plural of anecdote is data???

sigh.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #549 on: May 21, 2018, 03:12:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 21, 2018, 02:52:38 PM
So why was 3-loss Auburn a 9.5 favorite vs undefeated UCF?  For fun?  
to make money for the bookies
I gave the points and took Auburn - I assumed any team capable of beating Georgia by 23 and almighty Bama by 12 could cover the points vs an AAC team -  I was wrong
why can't others, such as many SEC coaches, players, and fans also admit they were or could have been wrong about UCF?
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #550 on: May 21, 2018, 03:14:55 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 21, 2018, 03:06:32 PM
Why do smart people keep acting like the plural of anecdote is data???

sigh.
More than one highly rated team had its hopes dashed at or toward the end of last season. 
Only one of them embarrassed itself on the big stage that is a NYD 6 game.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #551 on: May 21, 2018, 03:17:10 PM »
Given I figured UCF was likely to upset Auburn, I would say I was right about UCF.

They had a very good team, a lot of speed.  
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #552 on: May 21, 2018, 03:28:42 PM »
I figure you were right as well, Cincydawg

but, most Dawgs, and Tide fans give UCF no respect

even most Auburn fans simply say it was a fluke because of lack of motivation or some other reason contrived by bowl season

heck in the final AP and Coaches poll UCF moved up to 6th and 7th - the national voters even begrudgingly gave some respect with 4 first place votes in the AP
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #553 on: May 21, 2018, 06:06:41 PM »
Are we now pretending fans of P5 programs looked down on UCF "just because"????  FFS

G5 teams are looked down upon for 2 reasons - talent and schedule.  Talent is a discussion we can have, and that's fine.  

Schedule is not.  UCF's schedule was crap.  UCF's schedule was so poor that if they actually were the best team in the country, no one would know it.  That's on them, fair or not.  We don't know if UCF is "that good" because we didn't see them play 3 tough games in a row during the season.  They didn't play a ranked opponent until the last 2 on their schedule, and while they won both, they gave up a combined 97 points in the process.

If anyone else had that same resume - OU, Bama, or whoever - they wouldn't get much respect, either.  The Knights had the 52nd-ranked scoring defense vs the 75th-ranked schedule.  
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #554 on: May 21, 2018, 06:43:56 PM »
I looked down on them because of their schedule and didn't think UCF talent could stand up to Auburn talent

things don't change much if they had played and won the 3 games that were cancelled vs Memphis, Georgia Tech and Maine

obviously that is going to happen because of the schedule - until they played #7 ranked Auburn

I'm not saying UCF has a claim as the #1 team in the nation or even a top 4 team in the playoff

just saying they should earn some respect after putting it on Auburn pretty good in the Peach.  Heck, with 4 losses Auburn finished #10

Auburn was held to 90 yards rushing on 44 carries.

More dominance: The Knights sacked Jarrett Stidham six times. Auburn had only one sack.

yes, any AAC team will be discounted because of their schedule.  Just give them a little credit if they beat a team like Auburn, especially if it doesn't look like a fluke

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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #555 on: May 21, 2018, 07:40:08 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 21, 2018, 03:12:35 PM
to make money for the bookies
And here I tried proving for quite some time it was to make money for Me,Bastages
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #556 on: May 21, 2018, 08:51:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 21, 2018, 09:14:08 AM
They may have "played down" in the beginning, but they were trying like crazy after getting punched in the mouth.
I thought those comments ended up being refuted?
I'm not seeing an article refuting the claims.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #557 on: May 21, 2018, 09:12:01 PM »
Idk about the UM-AppSt thing.  But a coach can do everything right - lay into his team about how they can't just show up and win, keep the action and effort high during practice, etc.  But a player can be gung-ho at practice and say and do all the right things, then go home and chill with his friends and tell them "we got this" - and not take the game seriously.
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #558 on: May 21, 2018, 09:47:43 PM »
and sometimes the entire team takes the game seriously and simply gets their butts kicked

I suppose every time a team fails to perform up to their maximum, win or lose, there's a reason or an excuse

when the Huskers were run by 39 vs the Badgers in 2012 there had to be a reason

in 2014 when the Buckeyes went 59-0 over the Badgers there had to be a reason

2017 the Hawkeyes put 55 on the Buckeyes there had to be a reason
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Re: 2018 Offseason Stream of Unconsciousness
« Reply #559 on: May 21, 2018, 09:52:05 PM »
A lot of this can be attributed to momentum. 

If one team gets a few big TDs, it sucks the life out of the other team. You can see it in their body language on the sideline. 

Of course one pick 6 the other way will fire them up again, all of a sudden. 
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