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I consider it (and the rest of them) to be an unsalted inland sea.

Another thing people don't understand about fresh water is that it's much less buoyant than salt water can be. It's also cold. Rarely does the temperature get above 75 on the West side, along shore even.

Good supply of drinking water.

We were up in Glen Arbor once, and they had to close the beach because of how big the waves were there, and that's a little more sheltered there on the bay.  Our waitress at the restaurant that night said she had lived in the area 50+ years and had never seen waves like that.  I was probably 11 or 12, and in retrospect, I'm not sure how my parents let the 4 of us keep playing in that up until it closed.  Trying to keep an eye on four kids between the ages of 3-12 in that mess would give me heart palpitations.

The person who owned the most slaves in my current area, and it was more than twice that of the second place prick, was.... Wait for it... A black dude.

He lived up around new been nc.  Wiki that guy.  If aliens consult our written history, its no wonder we havent met any.

How many white slaves did he own?

How many times has fro tried to derail this thread with politics?

Your first two posts on Stone Mountain, before OAM had responded at all:

The Confederate Mt Rushmore?

Your first two posts on Stone Mountain, before OAM had responded at all:

Those posts weren't political, at least in my view. However, the discussion seems to have gone too far and should probably end.

How many white slaves did he own?

if you're expecting me to even attempt to justify any person who thinks enough of themselves to own another, no matter what color, nationality, religion, or football team they support you're off track.  the entire prospect is disgusting.  

Getting close to a lock here, methinks. ELA or Drew make that call.

That would be a shame, if true.

i like to think this particular corner of the site is reasonable people and this may be genuine curiosity rather than conflict, and is why i appreciate you guys as much as i do... 

it's not like any of us have or had a dog in the fight.  

as far as statues or monuments are concerned, it has to be said that people lost their loved ones on all sides of every armed conflict, and how they remember them- so long as it doesn't perpetuate the resentment- is kinda up to them.  i'm guessing the prior sentence to be true. I hope that is what it is.  

we're beyond that, i hope, and here is a chance to prove it... 

for those reading what i've contributed in quiet protest: please realize i respect and regard each of you no matter if our opinion differs- we're a close group of fans, insofar as interwebz can create such a thing.  i got y'alls back no matter what (insofar as this place is concerned)... 

I think we should continue, but likely alter the subject?