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Topic: 2018 OT Tourney (1st Round) - Conference Networks vs. Facilities Arms Race

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utee94

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If Nebraska ever tried to get its own network, the presidents would see to it that they were booted from the partnership known as the Big Ten.
Nebraska was well on its way to having its own network-- well ahead of Texas-- before the B1G announced expansion and changed everything.

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The "in-footprint" cable subscriber model changed the calculus significantly.  Some of the B1G fans on this very site (and on this very thread) are some of the biggest opponents to what happened with Maryland and Rutgers.  My point is obvious, self-evident, substantiated, and vindicated by several long-time B1G fans around here.
Conference networks were directly responsible for many of the very bad things happening in college football in the past decade.  Anyone that's going to argue against me on that is... well... delusional, I guess.
I agree the BTN wanted the eastern schools for market share.
What I'm saying is that if the BTN didn't exist, the Big Ten may have added Maryland and Rutgers to sweeten the negotiations with ABC/ESPN or any other network bidding on the content
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I agree the BTN wanted the eastern schools for market share.
What I'm saying is that if the BTN didn't exist, the Big Ten may have added Maryland and Rutgers to sweeten the negotiations with ABC/ESPN or any other network bidding on the content
Without the in-footprint cable subscriber model, Maryland and Rutgers don't move the needle.  At all.
The only options to sweeten the deal for Tier 1 media partners, would be big names.  Nobody turns on a television set to see a B1G team play Rutgers, not even if it's Michigan or Ohio State.
That's why Nebraska was a good add for national marketability.  But Maryland and Rutgers were terrible adds that dilute the product and further diminish former regional rivalries.  Their sole value was in-footprint cable subscriber pressure on the carriers.  Which is absolute crap and a severe blow to the sport of college football.

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again I agree

maybe it wouldn't have been Maryland and Rutgers, but the Big Ten would be looking to add high quality content such as Nebraska to enhance their TV contracts - yes a bit different from the BTN with the cable TV subscription model, but it would have caused realignment and additions
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Without the in-footprint cable subscriber model, Maryland and Rutgers don't move the needle.  At all.
The only options to sweeten the deal for Tier 1 media partners, would be big names.  Nobody turns on a television set to see a B1G team play Rutgers, not even if it's Michigan or Ohio State.
That's why Nebraska was a good add for national marketability.  But Maryland and Rutgers were terrible adds that dilute the product and further diminish former regional rivalries.  Their sole value was in-footprint cable subscriber pressure on the carriers.  Which is absolute crap and a severe blow to the sport of college football.
Don't lump Maryland in with Rutgers. Rutgers was a pure NYC Media Grab.
Maryland strokes all the right places (State flagship university, top research university, well rounded in numerous sports, continuous state, expands natural footprint, etc.) all except for National Football property.

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Nebraska was well on its way to having its own network-- well ahead of Texas-- before the B1G announced expansion and changed everything.
Had they been in the Big Ten and well on its way to having its own network, they'd have been looking for a conference. Just sayin'. 
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Had they been in the Big Ten and well on its way to having its own network, they'd have been looking for a conference. Just sayin'.
Obviously, because the B1G already had a conference network at that point.
However, prior to that, individual schools negotiated their Tier3 rights separately.  And in the case of radio and branding rights, they still do. Ohio State's radio and branding deal with IMG pays them far more than whatever Illinois has negotiated, and that revenue is not shared with the conference.
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Texas killed the big12
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Entropy

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If Nebraska ever tried to get its own network, the presidents would see to it that they were booted from the partnership known as the Big Ten.
and it should be if they did that...
UNL would have had the 3rd or 4th best network in the big12 if everyone went their own way.  But the reality, pooling together is worth more to everyone.   Or at least that's how I see it.  

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Texas killed the big12
This I don't believe.
What killed the Big 12 was all the schools (that could) trying to do what was best for themselves without regard for the others. Be it TV, movement, whatever.
A&M was trying to get to the SEC. Mizzou to the Big Ten. Texas to the Big Ten even before the XII happened. 
Had they all put the same energy into the league (partnership) they were in, it might still be what it was. Instead, we have what we have.
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Texas is the Donald Trump of college football.  You couldn't trust them so you start looking for other options.  The conference was dysfunctional as a result.   Everything seem ended up be drama.   If they had Michigan or OSU's attitude, the 12 never falls apart.   But it was about them...   and everyone started looking for exits as quickly as possible so they wouldn't be stuck without.   Perhaps they over reacted... up to debate, but Texas killed the Big12
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I'm not going down that rathole.

Perhaps if the Big 8 schools weren't greedy to add Texas and A&M to the conference when the SWC fell apart, that would still be around too. Or had Arky never left the SWC for greener pastures. Or had the Eastern Indies listened to JoePa about starting a conference, the Big Ten would still be 10.

Or. 

Or.

It all starts somewhere. Cause and effect.
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Entropy

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or it's texas.... :)

 

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