2018 Coaching Changes thread

[Mdot21]

Fox Sports Bruce Feldman reporting that Tennessee zeroing in on USC OC Tee Martin. I think that'd be a pretty solid hire considering the mess that Tennessee is in right now, but it's still a risk. Martin hasn't really done anything yet in his brief coaching career. He's been an OC for all of 2 years. That's a pretty big jump to go from OC to head man in charge. Martin is a gamble. High reward, but that's high risk as well. Tennessee better hope he's up to the job because another dud hire and they might not recover for a long long time.

If they wind up with Martin, tells you all you need to know about how other coaches view that job. Means they'll have been turned down left and right and land on about their 10th option. Schiano was probably option #4 and he took the job. Matt Campbell just turned them down.

Damn. What a shit show. That AD should be fired. Like now. Right now.

[847badgerfan]

FSU is not a helmet school in my book.

[Mdot21]

FSU is not a helmet school in my book.

I'd agree with that. Pretty close though, and still a better job than tA&M.

[ELA]

I've developed the opinion that a great offensive mind  > a great defensive mind in CF today.   I wouldn't solve my problems by hiring a Def HC... UNLESS he has a bright minded and creative OC.   However, most Def HC seem to want to go with a more conservative approach on O and I'm not sure the way CF is played today, that is the right call.  jmo

I'm the exact opposite.  I want my brightest offensive mind calling plays, and I don't want that to be the head coach.  I'd much rather pair a defensive minded head coach with a brilliant OC than vice versa

[Mdot21]

I'm the exact opposite.  I want my brightest offensive mind calling plays, and I don't want that to be the head coach.  I'd much rather pair a defensive minded head coach with a brilliant OC than vice versa

I think I'm with you. New England has the perfect set up. Defensive "guru" HC who completely entrusts his QB and "innovative" OC to do as they please on offense. 

[Drew4UTk]

I'm the exact opposite.  I want my brightest offensive mind calling plays, and I don't want that to be the head coach.  I'd much rather pair a defensive minded head coach with a brilliant OC than vice versa

meanwhile..... some folks would settle for just a coach...

and don't ya know things are getting even weirder on the hill?  

• Haslam and Currie making a deal that the renovation would be funded by Haslam IF he were allowed discretion choosing the hire?
• strong possibility that no other candidate was seriously pursued other than Schiano, and that a LoI was in place as long as three weeks ago?  (tOSU fans? anything about that? presumably, they would have to go through Meyer for that to happen?)

it's a train wreck i just can't look away from... maybe it would be easier if those weren't my people?  I cry y'alls pardon, but this is still unimaginable to me, yet...... it happened and is still happening?  it was no dream, y'all... 

[Drew4UTk]

as far as arrangement of coaching talents... 

Frost is a hands on coach- even donning equipment at one point this season pretending to be that week's opposition 'option' QB... it doesn't get more hands on than that, and i wager is players responded accordingly "he's one of us" in a Big Brother role... 

Saban is a stand and review coach- micromanages his coordinators "let me see the drill... no, run it some more, when you've got it right come back to me" and is quick to dress down someone on the staff... I rarely see him go after players.  

Meyer is a father figure "do it this way and trust the wisdom of that to me"- engaged in seeing his players succeed from right above them not one person removed. 

Les Miles was a "I'll trust you when the chips are down" type. 

i think the point i'm trying to make is in each instance the players trusted the coach, and more importantly the coach trusts the players.  practice is when you ride the players w/o mercy and to the point of almost breaking them- a game is when you cut them loose to show off what they've learned... it's almost 'hands off' except to the point of correction.  successful coaches, no matter their style or which side of the ball their expertise resides all share this.  those who have trouble lack trust- either giving or gaining. 

[fezzador]

I'd agree with that. Pretty close though, and still a better job than tA&M.

Yep.  Just because a school might have more money, better facilities, better weather, better recruiting opportunities, etc. than a helmet, does not necessarily make that school a helmet.
Some schools dwarf Alabama in terms of recruiting access, fan base, or money (Florida, aTm, UGA etc), but it doesn't make them better jobs by any stretch.  Decades and decades of consistent success defines a helmet school.

[OrangeAfroMan]

as far as arrangement of coaching talents...

Frost is a hands on coach- even donning equipment at one point this season pretending to be that week's opposition 'option' QB... it doesn't get more hands on than that, and i wager is players responded accordingly "he's one of us" in a Big Brother role...

Saban is a stand and review coach- micromanages his coordinators "let me see the drill... no, run it some more, when you've got it right come back to me" and is quick to dress down someone on the staff... I rarely see him go after players.  

Meyer is a father figure "do it this way and trust the wisdom of that to me"- engaged in seeing his players succeed from right above them not one person removed.

Les Miles was a "I'll trust you when the chips are down" type.

i think the point i'm trying to make is in each instance the players trusted the coach, and more importantly the coach trusts the players.  practice is when you ride the players w/o mercy and to the point of almost breaking them- a game is when you cut them loose to show off what they've learned... it's almost 'hands off' except to the point of correction.  successful coaches, no matter their style or which side of the ball their expertise resides all share this.  those who have trouble lack trust- either giving or gaining.

You forgot the Bobby Bowden style of coaching - wander around wondering what's going on.

[MrNubbz]

He had a winning record vs Spurrier

[Mdot21]

You forgot the Bobby Bowden style of coaching - wander around wondering what's going on.

hey- that style didn't work that well for Brady Hoke. Maybe Bobby had the advantage because he wore a headset?

[OrangeAfroMan]

LMAO at Jason Witten - a current NFL player - having to say he's not a candidate to coach the Vols.  FFS!  Any truth to the rumor that anyone who's ever driven through Knoxville should submit their resume????

[Drew4UTk]

LMAO at Jason Witten - a current NFL player - having to say he's not a candidate to coach the Vols.  FFS!  Any truth to the rumor that anyone who's ever driven through Knoxville should submit their resume????

it defies belief, huh?  it's absolute insanity. 

[847badgerfan]

I'm the exact opposite.  I want my brightest offensive mind calling plays, and I don't want that to be the head coach.  I'd much rather pair a defensive minded head coach with a brilliant OC than vice versa

What UW has is a little different from what you say. The HC calls all the plays in consultation with his OC, and he leaves the defense to his defensive coordinator with complete autonomy. I should say, three years and three defensive coordinators, but that's not the point

I think the current DC is going to stick around for a while, but I could see a huge demand for him in another year or two. Pretty clear he has a brilliant mind for defense.

I could also see teams coming after the OC, simply for his ability to make wrinkles in the run game, building an offensive line and recruiting Ohio.