2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

[FearlessF]

judging a man for what's printed on his sheepskin is as foolish as judging him by the clothes on his back or the color of his skin

[medinabuckeye1]

Agreed.
When the excrement hits the air circulation device, nobody's clamoring for a PhD in English Lit.
But when the excrement hits the air circulation device, that PhD of English Lit will pay the plumber a mint to fix the problem.
The skilled trades is a great career choice for a lot of people who today probably think they "need" to go to college.

I'll add a great example of this:
In HS Geometry I learned the Pythagorean Theorem.  If you don't remember it, it is the mathematical rule that states that:
A^2+B^2 = C^2
Where:

• A and B are the sides of a right triangle that make the right angle, and
• C is the side of a right triangle that does not contact the right angle.  

If you are in college prep or going to be an engineer or mathematician it is probably important to learn this.  If you aren't, it isn't.  

Now, when I learned it, I immediately recognized it as something that, in the building trades, is often simplified as the "Rule of 3, 4, 5".  

The way the "Rule of 3, 4, 5" works is that when you are building something, you can check that your corner is square by measuring three feet down one side, four feet down another side, and the distance between your 3' mark and your 4' mark will be 5' if your corner is square.  If you do the math, sure enough:
3^2+4^2 = 5^2
9+16 = 25
25 = 25

Here is my point:  If you try to teach the Pythagorean Theorem to a bunch of non-college-material guys they are probably going to stare out the window, throw paper airplanes, or basically anything else other than learn Pythagoras' Theorem.  However, if you taught them the rule of 3, 4, 5 there is a decent chance that they might see the practical application.  If you aren't going to go to college then you have no need to know that Pythagoras was a greek dude who lived in Samos 2,500 years ago and figured this out.  That knowledge is unlikely to ever be useful to you.  However, there is a decent chance that you could use the knowledge that if you are building a deck behind your house the corner is square when the distance between your 3' mark and your 4' mark is exactly 5'.  Hopefully someone reading this will use that when building a deck behind their own house.  I've built lots of decks and used that lots of times.  

[847badgerfan]

UW just missed out on a transfer big named Wyatt Walker. Nearly averaged a double-double two years ago. Now headed to NC state.

I'm annoyed because UW is stupid thin up front (had three bigs who played last year, one who was kind of a SF). But he also was a no-range player, and I kind of want UW to move back toward having everyone who can at least kind of shoot.

(I was about to post on him still considering, but upon googling, it said he committed 3 minutes earlier)

Anyone else on the radar, or will they bank it or just use it on Hedstrom??

[betarhoalphadelta]

However, there is a decent chance that you could use the knowledge that if you are building a deck behind your house the corner is square when the distance between your 3' mark and your 4' mark is exactly 5'.  Hopefully someone reading this will use that when building a deck behind their own house.  I've built lots of decks and used that lots of times.  

I'm an electrical engineer. Calculus was a start for me, leading to multivariate calculus, differential equations, and linear algebra later on in college. I'm well acquainted with Pythagoras.
I've never heard the 3, 4, 5 rule used in building. 
They should seriously tell math teachers to include this as a practical example of the theory. For people who are more abstract mathematical thinkers, it's not necessary as they already get it. But for people who are more practical and should understand real-world application, that would be a huge teaching aid.

[bayareabadger]

I'm an electrical engineer. Calculus was a start for me, leading to multivariate calculus, differential equations, and linear algebra later on in college. I'm well acquainted with Pythagoras.
I've never heard the 3, 4, 5 rule used in building.
They should seriously tell math teachers to include this as a practical example of the theory. For people who are more abstract mathematical thinkers, it's not necessary as they already get it. But for people who are more practical and should understand real-world application, that would be a huge teaching aid.

I had a freshman year Calc 3 professor burn away some interest I had in math. I liked it in high school, mostly because I was good at it. I honestly could've been pretty OK at that class at least, but the professor did not feel the need to say within the bounds of his curriculum. 
I was still young, not passionate about the idea of engineering. I left that class with the sense following that path would lead far more toward the theoretical/abstract. Ended up shifting away from math, and later sciences. Turned out, academia wasn't great at making some things palatable. Oh well. 

[bayareabadger]

Anyone else on the radar, or will they bank it or just use it on Hedstrom??

Unclear. Sounds like he's from Florida and proximity was big. 
Could use it on Anderson too. UW is gonna have to roll with those guards next year. 

[847badgerfan]

Nothing wrong with playing 3-4 guards on the floor from time to time. That's where the talent is.

Iverson is 6-5 - play him at SF once in a while. He can jump over anyone. Play him, Trice, King and Davison together, with Happ or Reuvers.

Gotta use the talent you have on hand, unless somehow Thomas and Illikainin can somehow improve dramatically. I'm not going to hold my breath there.

I read that Reuvers has put on 25 pounds since March. That is encouraging, but hard to believe at the same time - unless it's all from Teddywedgers. Heh.

[847badgerfan]

I had a freshman year Calc 3 professor burn away some interest I had in math. I liked it in high school, mostly because I was good at it. I honestly could've been pretty OK at that class at least, but the professor did not feel the need to say within the bounds of his curriculum.
I was still young, not passionate about the idea of engineering. I left that class with the sense following that path would lead far more toward the theoretical/abstract. Ended up shifting away from math, and later sciences. Turned out, academia wasn't great at making some things palatable. Oh well.

For a few more courses, through sophomore year and a couple as a junior. Then it gets good, and the theory/abstract all comes together in a nice little package called... Engineering.

[FearlessF]

some profs are better than others at getting smart kids to their junior/senior classes

[847badgerfan]

some profs are better than others at getting smart kids to their junior/senior classes

Some smart kids are better than some profs at getting smart kids into their junior/senior classes.


The worst profs I had were not in the hard classes..

Shocking, I know.
I guess I should take that to the non-moderated board. 

[bayareabadger]

Nothing wrong with playing 3-4 guards on the floor from time to time. That's where the talent is.

Iverson is 6-5 - play him at SF once in a while. He can jump over anyone. Play him, Trice, King and Davison together, with Happ or Reuvers.

Gotta use the talent you have on hand, unless somehow Thomas and Illikainin can somehow improve dramatically. I'm not going to hold my breath there.

I read that Reuvers has put on 25 pounds since March. That is encouraging, but hard to believe at the same time - unless it's all from Teddywedgers. Heh.

The idea of Happ/Reuvers/Ford as the bigs is a hint worrisome. If Nate gets good, say better than sophomore Leuer, it's OK. Beyond that, it might be a 7-11 seed, which after last year, I'll take.

It speaks to my faith in Gard and the talent. I like that top 8, a lot. 

[bayareabadger]

For a few more courses, through sophomore year and a couple as a junior. Then it gets good, and the theory/abstract all comes together in a nice little package called... Engineering.

I had family/friends parents in engineering (plus a nerdy friend who felt sure in 8th grade he'd land there). They had such passion for it. I couldn't match. I'm not mad I didn't do it, but always wondered. Maybe if I seek a second career, I'll get into those programs you talk about pushing. Maybe I could do it.
It's funny, that prof I mentioned, he had a kid who majored in nuclear engineering wondering what was going on. It was a bad setup. (Ironically, looking at the actual work, I could've done it well enough. I ended up letting my calc skills atrophy, thanks to part of UW's econ curriculum. I tried to pick it up after a few years off and it was not great)

[847badgerfan]

The idea of Happ/Reuvers/Ford as the bigs is a hint worrisome. If Nate gets good, say better than sophomore Leuer, it's OK. Beyond that, it might be a 7-11 seed, which after last year, I'll take.

It speaks to my faith in Gard and the talent. I like that top 8, a lot.

I think Reuvers is going to be really good. He showed flashes in a year where he wasn't even supposed to play. He's going to hard to keep off the floor this coming season.

[MarqHusker]

Local problem I know, but geesh, enough of the Romeo Langford news.  Locals were going to explode if he picked anybody but IU.