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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2030 on: March 08, 2019, 03:31:52 PM »
Each team has one and only one game this weekend (Fri-Sun) and then we head to Chicago for the BTT.  Here are all of the various BTT seed possibilities:
The #1 seed:  M/MSU winner
The #2 seed:  Purdue (if they win at NU), M/MSU loser if PU loses
The #3 seed:  M/MSU loser if PU wins, PU if PU loses
The #4 seed:  Wisconsin unless they lose (@tOSU) and UMD wins (vMN), in that case Maryland
The #5 seed:  Maryland unless they win and UW loses, in that case Wisconsin
The #6 seed:  Iowa unless they lose (@UNL) and MN wins (@UMD), in that case Minnesota
The #7 seed:
  • Iowa if Iowa loses (@UNL) and Minnesota wins (@UMD)
  • Minnesota if they win and Iowa wins
  • Minnesota if they lose and Ohio State loses
  • Ohio State if they win (vUW) and Minnesota loses (@UMD)
The #8 seed, if Ohio State wins (vUW):
  • Minnesota if they lose (@UMD)
  • Ohio State if MN wins

The #9 seed if Ohio State wins (if tOSU wins then they and MN will be 7/8):  The IU/RU winner and IL (if they win (@PSU) will be 9th or tied for 9th/10th.  In the case of a tie:
  • Indiana/Illinois:  Indiana wins (9 seed), Illinois loses (10 seed)
  • Rutgers/Illinois:  Illinois wins (9 seed), Rutgers loses (10 seed)

If Ohio State loses then things get really complicated.  IU/RU are tied one game behind Ohio State.  Thus, if Ohio State loses they will tie with the IU/RU winner.  Additionally, Illinois would join that tie if they win (@PSU).  Thus, there are four potential ties if Ohio State loses:
  • Ohio State/Indiana:  Ohio State wins based on H2H (1-0) (8 seed), Indiana loses (9 seed)
  • Ohio State/Rutgers:  Ohio State wins based on record against Minnesota (8 seed), Rutgers loses (9 seed)
  • Ohio State/Indiana/Illinois:  Indiana wins (8 seed), Ohio State is second (9 seed), Illinois is last (10 seed)
  • Ohio State/Rutgers/Illinois:  Illinois wins (8 seed), Ohio State is second (9 seed), Rutgers is last (10 seed)

All of the possibilities involving Illinois winning are covered above.  If the Illini lose then they will tie with the IU/RU loser and PSU for 10th/11th/12th.  Here is how those ties would break:
  • Illinois/Penn State/Indiana:  Indiana wins (10 seed), Penn State is second (11 seed), Illinois is last (12 seed)
  • Illinois/Penn State/ Rutgers:  Penn State wins (10 seed), Rutgers is second (11 seed), Illinois is last (12 seed)

The #12 seed if Illinois wins (If Illinois loses to PSU then PSU, IL, and the IU/RU loser will tie for 10/11/12, see above).  If Illinois wins then PSU, UNL, and NU will be 12/13/14):  Penn State (either by finishing ahead of UNL or by winning the tiebreaker with UNL based on record against Michigan).  

The #13 seed:  Nebraska.  This is a done deal. The best Nebraska can do is a tie with Illinois for 12th/13th and they lose that tie based on record against Michigan.  The worst Nebraska can do is a tie with NU for 13th/14th and they win that tie based on H2H.  

The #14 seed:  Northwestern.  The best the Wildcats can do is a tie with Nebraska and they lose that tie.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2031 on: March 08, 2019, 05:31:06 PM »
No Wesson on Sunday. 

Badgers, please don't eff this up.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2032 on: March 08, 2019, 06:07:44 PM »
By team instead of seed:

Michigan/Michigan State:  
  • #1 if they win
  • #2 If they lose and PU loses
  • #3 if they lose and PU wins  

Purdue:  
  • #2 if they win
  • #3 if they lose.  

Wisconsin:  
  • #4 if they win or UMD loses  
  • #5 if they lose and UMD wins

Maryland:  
  • #4 if they win and UW loses
  • #5 if they lose or UW wins

Iowa:  
  • #6 if they win or MN loses
  • #7 if they lose and MN wins  

Minnesota:  
  • #6 if they win and IA loses.  
  • #7 if they win and IA wins or if they lose and tOSU loses.  
  • #8 if they lose and tOSU wins.  

Ohio State:
  • #7 if they win and MN loses.  
  • #8 if they win and MN wins or if they lose and IL loses.  
  • #9 if they lose and IL wins.  

Indiana:
  • #8 if they win and tOSU loses and IL wins
  • #9 if they win and tOSU wins or if they win and tOSU loses and IL loses or if they lose and IL wins
  • #10 if they lose

Rutgers:
  • #9 if they win and IL loses 
  • #10 if they win and IL wins
  • #11 if they lose

Illinois:
  • #9 if they win and RU wins and tOSU wins
  • #10 if they win and IU wins or if they win and RU wins and tOSU loses
  • #12 if they lose

Penn State:  
  • #10 if they win and RU loses
  • #11 if they win IU loses
  • #12 if they lose

Nebraska:  #13

Northwestern:  #14

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2033 on: March 08, 2019, 06:44:31 PM »
Okay. So if I understand Medina correctly I have to employ the following rooting interests in order to A) have someone other than Michigan win the regular season title, and B) have OSU on the same branch of the bracket as Michigan (yes, I have a death wish). 

So we essentially need Michigan as a two seed and OSU as a seven seed. 

So I have to root for MSU to beat Michigan (of course), OSU to beat Wisconsin (Oh gawd), Northwestern to beat Purdue (this is starting to unravel rather hastily) and Maryland over Minnesota (not all that far fetched). 

I'm in. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2034 on: March 08, 2019, 06:52:48 PM »
I have no doubt that the Kaleb Wesson suspension hurt but it doesn't explain the Buckeyes' inability to hit the broad side of a barn.  Woods and Washington combined for ~60 minutes and 26 points on 9-26 shooting (35%).  That is actually the good news.  Here are the stats for other guys who played significant minutes:
  • 30 mins, A. Wesson, 2 points on 0-8 shooting with a turnover and 4 fouls.  
  • 29 mins, L. Muhammad, 3 points on 0-4 shooting with two turnovers.  
  • 26 mins, K. Young, 7 points on 3-5 shooting with three turnovers and three fouls.
  • 25 mins, C.J. Jackson, 9 points on 4-11 shooting with a turnover.  
  • 23 mins, J. Aherns, 3 points on 1-7 shooting with a turnover.  

Overall the Buckeyes shot <27% and <16% from behind the arc.  That doesn't even rise to the level of pathetic.  
Wesson and Muhammad infuriated me during the game. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2035 on: March 08, 2019, 08:11:29 PM »
Maryland back to being pretty solid, Minnesota showing no sign of whatever happened earlier this week. Is 22-9 pretty good for Maryland?

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2036 on: March 08, 2019, 08:23:06 PM »
Maryland back to being pretty solid, Minnesota showing no sign of whatever happened earlier this week. Is 22-9 pretty good for Maryland?
Considering how infuriating they have been to watch with all the turnovers, lack of rebounding when the ball touches their hands (I realize they are a good rebounding team, but too many went through our hands as well), the 3's shot by non-3-point-shooting players, and many missed layups, I'm pretty happy with it.
Could only be happier if Ohio State wins.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2037 on: March 08, 2019, 11:27:17 PM »
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2038 on: March 09, 2019, 06:49:12 AM »
Wesson and Muhammad infuriated me during the game.
Not surprising considering that you effectively played better in that game than they did.  You had the same number of FG's, less turnovers, and less fouls.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2039 on: March 09, 2019, 06:51:33 AM »
By team instead of seed:

Michigan/Michigan State:  
  • #1 if they win
  • #2 If they lose and PU loses
  • #3 if they lose and PU wins  

Purdue:  
  • #2 if they win
  • #3 if they lose.  

Wisconsin:  
  • #4 if they win  
  • #5 if they lose

Maryland:  
  • #4 if UW loses
  • #5 if UW wins

Iowa:  
  • #6 

Minnesota:  
  • #7 if tOSU loses.  
  • #8 if tOSU wins.  

Ohio State:
  • #7 if they win.  
  • #8 if they lose and IL loses.  
  • #9 if they lose and IL wins.  

Indiana:
  • #8 if they win and tOSU loses and IL wins
  • #9 if they win and tOSU wins or if they win and tOSU loses and IL loses or if they lose and IL wins
  • #10 if they lose

Rutgers:
  • #9 if they win and IL loses
  • #10 if they win and IL wins
  • #11 if they lose

Illinois:
  • #9 if they win and RU wins and tOSU wins
  • #10 if they win and IU wins or if they win and RU wins and tOSU loses
  • #12 if they lose

Penn State:  
  • #10 if they win and RU loses
  • #11 if they win IU loses
  • #12 if they lose

Nebraska:  #13

Northwestern:  #14


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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2041 on: March 09, 2019, 11:01:36 AM »
Damn, that Purdue loss made today so much more stressful.  I was totally cool with a split with UM, partixpartic once Ward got hurt, felt like a pipe dream.  But now that it's for a Big Ten title, I'm feeling more greedy

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2042 on: March 09, 2019, 01:42:59 PM »
Bruce Pearl is a clown

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2043 on: March 09, 2019, 02:55:51 PM »
What is going on with Northwestesterns uniforms?  It's like their version of the 90s Grizzlies uniforms, but with a pretentious gothic font for the names on the back?

 

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